nested alpha lists and bulleted lists within numbered lists

[Roger Shuttleworth]

Hi Joe

What you need to understand is that the < > is a placeholder for a number (or letter), and n or a simply defines whether it will be a number or a letter. So if you have:
<n=1> - gives 1
<n+> - gives 2
<a=1> - gives a
<a+> - gives b
<a+> - gives c 
<n+> - gives 4

Why? Since you have only one placeholder in each paragraph, with no series identifier, Frame treats them as a single series, whether you tell it to use arabic numbers, letters, roman numerals, or whatever. The first two are obvious. In the third one you have reset the number of the sequence back to 1, while telling Frame to make it alphabetic. So the next ones carry on from there - that is, 2, 3, and 4. The last paragraph therefore is the fourth in the sequence, not the third as you expect.

Your mistake is that you think the paragraph format that you apply makes any difference. In contrast, it is the number of placeholders in the series that makes the difference.

What you should do is this:

Either define two paragraph formats that each use two placeholders, < >< >, and control them separately; or, as Rick suggests, use series identifiers to distinguish two separate series.

So you could accomplish what you want by doing:

<n=1>< > - gives 1 - apply Numbered1 para format
  <n+>< > - gives 2 - apply Numbered1 para format
  < ><a=1> - gives a and maintains the value of n - apply Numbered2 para format
  < ><a+> - gives b and maintains the value of n - apply Numbered2 para format
  < ><a+> - gives c and maintains the value of n - apply Numbered2 para format
  <n+>< > - gives 3 and maintains the value of a - apply Numbered para format

Or by doing:

N:<n=1> - gives 1 - Numbered1 para format
    N:<n+> - gives 2 - Numbered1 para format
    A:<a=1> - gives a - Numbered2 para format
    A:<a+> - gives b - Numbered2 para format
    A:<a+> - gives c - Numbered2 para format
    N:<n+> - gives 3 - Numbered para format

Both of these need refining a bit so that a will restart at 1 at the appropriate places (when you want to have 4.a instead of 4.d, for example).

I hope this clarifies things for you. I will send you off-list an article written some years ago (not by me) that explains autonumbering and the use of series and multiple placeholders. Once the penny drops it will all make perfect sense.

Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
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AV-BASE Systems Inc.
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From: Joe Hughes [mailto:joehugh at gmail.com]
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:22:49 -0400
Subject: nested alpha lists and bulleted lists within numbered lists


I have encountered a numbering issue when I include a nested alphabetical list within a numbered list. To the best of my knowledge, I am using the correct numbering and list tags:  
   
Heading 4   
<n=1>.\t  (Numbered1)  
<n+>.\t    (Numbered)  
<a=1>.\t  (Numbered2)  
<a+>.\t    (Numbered3)  
•\t            (Bullet3)  
•\t  
•\t  
<n+>.\t    (Numbered)  
   
Output is as follows:  
   
  

B. Offsetting Credit Found in _________ .      

            1.     Send out a cashier’s check. Make sure the case (credit case) is still open before creating an Official Check.      

2.       Inside the case notes type the following:      

       a.        Ready to cut check C/W (case number is needed).      

       b.       Check to see if we have a relationship the bank.      

         –         If there’s a relationship, waive the fees.      

         –         If not a relationship, contact the bank and informed the bank of the research fees.      

         –         The fees can be deducted from the cashier check or the funds can be sent  for the research.      

       c.        Click ______.      

4.       Go into the ______ program and enter notes.      
   
   
This is an unstructured document. As you can see, Frame is reading the alpha list, or possibly item c., as a 3. in the numbered list, so it skips from 2. to 4. I've spent about an hour researching this and can't seem to find anything. Lacking an alternative, I've changed the alpha list to bullets and moved on. This corrects the problem and the final numbered item is 3., which is correct. However, there may be situations in the future in which I may need to use the Numbered - Alpha - Bullet - Numbered format.       
   
Suggestions anyone?  
   
Thanks,   
   
Joe  
   
 
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