nested alpha lists and bulleted lists within numbered lists

Joe Hughes joehugh at gmail.com
Thu Jun 23 07:25:44 PDT 2011


Great, thanks!

Joe

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Roger Shuttleworth <
rshuttleworth at avbasesystems.com> wrote:

> **
> Hi Joe
>
> What you need to understand is that the < > is a placeholder for a number
> (or letter), and n or a simply defines whether it will be a number or a
> letter. So if you have:
> <n=1> - gives 1
> <n+> - gives 2
> <a=1> - gives a
> <a+> - gives b
> <a+> - gives c
> <n+> - gives 4
>
> Why? Since you have only one placeholder in each paragraph, with no series
> identifier, Frame treats them as a single series, whether you tell it to use
> arabic numbers, letters, roman numerals, or whatever. The first two are
> obvious. In the third one you have reset the number of the sequence back to
> 1, while telling Frame to make it alphabetic. So the next ones carry on from
> there - that is, 2, 3, and 4. The last paragraph therefore is the fourth in
> the sequence, not the third as you expect.
>
> Your mistake is that you think the paragraph format that you apply makes
> any difference. In contrast, it is the number of placeholders in the
> series that makes the difference.
>
> What you should do is this:
>
> Either define two paragraph formats that each use two placeholders, < >< >,
> and control them separately; or, as Rick suggests, use series identifiers to
> distinguish two separate series.
>
> So you could accomplish what you want by doing:
>
> <n=1>< > - gives 1 - apply Numbered1 para format
> <n+>< > - gives 2 - apply Numbered1 para format
> < ><a=1> - gives a and maintains the value of n - apply Numbered2 para
> format
> < ><a+> - gives b and maintains the value of n - apply Numbered2 para
> format
> < ><a+> - gives c and maintains the value of n - apply Numbered2 para
> format
> <n+>< > - gives 3 and maintains the value of a - apply Numbered para format
>
> Or by doing:
>
> N:<n=1> - gives 1 - Numbered1 para format
> N:<n+> - gives 2 - Numbered1 para format
> A:<a=1> - gives a - Numbered2 para format
> A:<a+> - gives b - Numbered2 para format
> A:<a+> - gives c - Numbered2 para format
> N:<n+> - gives 3 - Numbered para format
>
> Both of these need refining a bit so that a will restart at 1 at the
> appropriate places (when you want to have 4.a instead of 4.d, for example).
>
> I hope this clarifies things for you. I will send you off-list an article
> written some years ago (not by me) that explains autonumbering and the use
> of series and multiple placeholders. Once the penny drops it will all make
> perfect sense.
>
> Roger
>
> Roger Shuttleworth
> Technical Documentation
> AV-BASE Systems Inc.
> 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
> London, Ontario
> N5V 3S4
> Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Joe Hughes [mailto:joehugh at gmail.com]
>
> *To:* framers at lists.frameusers.com
> *Sent:* Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:22:49 -0400
>
> *Subject:* nested alpha lists and bulleted lists within numbered lists
>
> I have encountered a numbering issue when I include a nested alphabetical
> list within a numbered list. To the best of my knowledge, I am using the
> correct numbering and list tags:
>
> Heading 4
> <n=1>.\t  (Numbered1)
> <n+>.\t    (Numbered)
> <a=1>.\t  (Numbered2)
> <a+>.\t    (Numbered3)
> •\t            (Bullet3)
> •\t
> •\t
> <n+>.\t    (Numbered)
>
> Output is as follows:
>
>
> *B. Offsetting Credit Found in _________ .*
>
>             1.     Send out a cashier’s check. Make sure the case (credit
> case) is still open before creating an Official Check.
>
> 2.       Inside the case notes type the following:
>
>        a.        Ready to cut check C/W (case number is needed).
>
>        b.       Check to see if we have a relationship the bank.
>
>          –         If there’s a relationship, waive the fees.
>
>          –         If not a relationship, contact the bank and informed
> the bank of the research fees.
>
>          –         The fees can be deducted from the cashier check or the
> funds can be sent  for the research.
>
>        c.        Click *______*.
>
> 4.       Go into the ______ program and enter notes.
>
>
> This is an unstructured document. As you can see, Frame is reading the
> alpha list, or possibly item c., as a 3. in the numbered list, so it skips
> from 2. to 4. I've spent about an hour researching this and can't seem to
> find anything. Lacking an alternative, I've changed the alpha list to
> bullets and moved on. This corrects the problem and the final numbered item
> is 3., which is correct. However, there may be situations in the future in
> which I may need to use the Numbered - Alpha - Bullet - Numbered format.
>
> Suggestions anyone?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
>
> Joseph Hughes
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/joehughes65
> E-mail: joehugh at gmail.com
> http://joehugh.googlepages.com/aboutjoe
> Phone: (205) 956-7339
>
>


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