deleting orphaned text frames

John Sgammato jsgammato at IMPRIVATA.com
Thu Mar 31 08:37:33 PDT 2011


Thanks everyone for the input. 

Everyone offered the same basic solution, which worked fine, but was
time-consuming. 

I did learn a timesaving trick:  p1 of each chapter was OK, so I could
save a step: Instead of deleting ALL pages, I replaced the entire
chapter content with an x (so p1 was not empty) and saved, thus deleting
everything except p1, and the bad L&R pages with them. Then I selected
my x and pasted the content back over it, which dutifully filled out the
chapter and all was well for that chapter. 

 

Then, rather than repeat the process for 27 chapters, I had another
idea. I noticed that the text flow behaved itself as long as it existed
on the master page, but deleting it from the master page left it on the
body page, and it was now isolated and unable to respond to master page
tricks.  The answer seemed to point to adjustment within the master
page, but not deleting it, because master page deletion left body page
orphans.

So instead I worked with the master pages in one file: I shrank the two
text frames in that flow (one on the L master page and one on the R) to
0.2 x 0.2 inches and slid it safely into the margin.  Then I updated
master pages on all the chapters and it worked - they still have that
text flow, but it is invisible and harmless. Some day when Adobe comes
up with a better solution I will deal with it, but for now it doesn't
seem to be hurting anything.

 

john

 

 

From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:50 PM
To: John Sgammato; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: deleting orphaned text frames

 

If all the text you want is in one flow, the solution is pretty easy.
Just make a clean template file, then import the flow --
File>Import>File (by copying), specifying the flow you want to import --
from each legacy chapter file into a copy of the clean template.
Everything that is not part of the imported flow will be left behind. 
 
-Fred Ridder
 

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Subject: deleting orphaned text frames
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:32:16 -0400
From: jsgammato at IMPRIVATA.com
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com

I have a book (inherited from an outside source) with hundreds of pages
of orphaned text frames, some alongside good text, some simply
preventing a blank page from being deleted. I can delete them
individually, but this will take ages. I want to delete all of them in
one swell foop, if I can. 

The orphans are all in an isolated, empty text flow called Notes. 

They are found in 27 chapters. 

They do not appear on the chapter Master pages, so I can't simply delete
them from one chapter's master pages and then import the page formats to
the other chapters.

Re-applying clean master pages does not exorcise these ghosts. 

 

Has anyone seen such behavior? Any suggestions for getting rid of these
frames, or the whole Notes text flow?

 

john

 


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