Can't Get "Delete Empty Pages" to stick

[Alison Craig]

No I haven't. That never even occurred to me - although it should have as it seems to be a common piece of advice that solves many headaches.

I'll try as soon as I open that book (after making backups, of course).

Alison


From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:12 PM
To: gillian.flato at nexenta.com; Alison Craig; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Can't Get "Delete Empty Pages" to stick

Oftentimes, you don't even need to find and delete the gibberish in the MIF manually. Simply saving the file to MIF and then converting the MIF back to FM binary (the so-called "MIF wash") will often take care of a problem of this type thanks to the MIF import filter, which is designed to ignore anything in the MIF file that the given version of FrameMaker doesn't fully understand (such as features implemented in a newer version of Frame).

Have you already done a MIF wash, Alison?

-Fred

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From: Gillian.Flato at nexenta.com<mailto:Gillian.Flato at nexenta.com>
To: Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com<mailto:Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com>; docudoc at hotmail.com<mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com>; robert at lauriston.com<mailto:robert at lauriston.com>; framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: Can't Get "Delete Empty Pages" to stick
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 00:50:01 +0000
Allison,

When I have a Frame file that is doing inexplicable things, I save it as a MIF file and look at the code there. I tend to see an entry that scrolls across 5 lines and contains gibberish. After I delete the tag and its contents, everything goes back to normal.

-Gillian

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]<mailto:[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]> On Behalf Of Alison Craig
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 5:45 PM
To: Fred Ridder; robert at lauriston.com<mailto:robert at lauriston.com>; framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: Can't Get "Delete Empty Pages" to stick

Fred:

I've done all that and Next Available seems to (occasionally) reset itself as well. I tried resetting things at the file level only when everything else I could think of had failed to solve my problem (desperate times call for desperate measures, and all that).

Everything works fine in all the other files, it's just this one that's decided to misbehave (as Rick Quatro helped me with the initial setup it's not surprising that it used to work perfectly - before I did something to screw it up).

I think I'll try again on Monday. Maybe I'll try recreating it from scratch. Again. Good thing the file is tiny.

Thanks, Alison

From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com]>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 5:12 PM
To: Alison Craig; robert at lauriston.com<mailto:robert at lauriston.com>; framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: Can't Get "Delete Empty Pages" to stick

By way of clarification, you need to look for the "Next Available" setting in the file *following* the one that appears to have the pagination ptroblem. If the following chapter is set to start on a right (recto, odd-numbered page) page rather than Next Available, it will force an empty left (verso) page in the *preceding* chapter if that chapter ends on a right (recto) page.

Also noet that you can ony see (and set) the "Next Available" option when accessing the pagination properties from the book file. If you open a file independently, you will only see the Left and Right options, because "Next Available" depends on having something preceed the file in question; you can only set the behavior that will apply if you print that one file by itself.

-Fred Ridder

> From: Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com<mailto:Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com>
> To: robert at lauriston.com<mailto:robert at lauriston.com>; framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:28:39 -0700
> Subject: RE: Can't Get "Delete Empty Pages" to stick
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> I've set it to that (at the book level) but occasionally I lose this info as well and it changes to Read from File.
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> Alison
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com<mailto:robert.lauriston at gmail.com> [mailto:robert.lauriston at gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:robert.lauriston at gmail.com]> On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 4:27 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Cc: Alison Craig
> Subject: Re: Can't Get "Delete Empty Pages" to stick
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> In the Pagination dialog, is 1st Page Side set to Next Available?
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