framers Digest, Vol 86, Issue 25
anirae at comcast.net
anirae at comcast.net
Thu Jan 10 15:54:56 PST 2013
Hello Les,
I'm not sure what you mean by the question marks in your descriptions. Could you please explain?
I'm still having issues with the added "< >" tag not making any difference, and with the figures interfering with the section numbering (1.1, 1.2, etc.) .
Thanks,
Anirae
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1. Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured
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From: anirae at comcast.net
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Subject: Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured
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Framers,
Back on Frame after several years of being forced to use inferior products. The hang of it is returning, but I have a strange auto numbering issue. Hope you can help.
The figure numbering for the chapter breaks when I add auto numbered figures and tables.
Several files in the book. Each file is actually its own manual, and I want the book to see each as a volume (Vol 1, 2, 3, etc.). That's working OK. I want each file to start with chapter t after the preliminary pages (Title page and TOC). The Book is set up as follows:
1st file :
Volume: #1
Chapter: #1 (If I make this Read from File it doesn't change anything)
All other files:
Volume: Continue numbering from previous file in book.
Chapter: Read from File
Headings are H:Heading1, H:Heading2, etc.
If figure format is H:Figure<sectionnum>\t<n+>, I get:
2 Heading
2.1 Heading
Figure 1-5
Figure 1-6
1.6 Heading
Figure 1-7
really messed up
If figure format is F:Figure<n>\t<n+>, I get:
It does not recognize Heading 1 as <n> but Heading numbers are not influenced by inserting numbers, but the figures do not adopt the section number:
2.3 heading
Figure 1-3
Figure 1-4
2.3.1 Heading
Figure 1-6
If figure format is H:Figure<n>\t<n+><>.\t (as suggested by a post from some sight), I get:
1 Heading
Figure 0-1
Figure 0-2
2 Heading
Figure 0-3
2.3 Heading
Figure 0-4
2.3.1 Heading
Figure 0-5
What should I do to get:
1 Heading
Figure 1-1
1.1 Heading
Figure 1-2
2 Heading
Figure 2-1
Figure 2-2
2.1 Heading
Figure 2-3
2.1.1 Heading
Figure 2-4
and so forth
Thank you!
A
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Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 05:51:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Les Smalley <l_c_smalley at yahoo.com>
To: "anirae at comcast.net" <anirae at comcast.net>,
"framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured
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Hi Anirae!
If I read your message corrrectly, you want to have the figure numbers (and possibly also table numbers) increment? from 1 within each major section of the chapter containing them, and not interfere with or be altered by possible multiple levels of sub-sections.? The major section does reset them to start at one again.
For this to work, the figures, tables and headings will have to be in the same numbered series (e.g. F: or H:) but you also need to use placeholders - the empty building block < > (which does not alter, nor show the value) - for counters that should not be affected.
One suggestion is to create a grid of your numbering needs, so you can more easily see where you need to use the various types of numbering building block - display only (e.g. <n>), incrementing (e.g. <n+>) or ignoring (< > and note the space between the less-than and greater-than symbols)
Here is how I would setup your formats, assuming only three levels of headings (as per your example).? I've added a counter for tables as well, so there are 5 total numbering positions.
H:<n+>??????????????? 1 Heading (increment 1st level heading, reset all lower-level numbers: figures,
???????????????????????????????? tables and sub-headings)
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 1-1 (show current heading #, increment figure #, don't change table or
????????????????????????????????? sub-headings)
H:<n>< >< >.<n+>????? 1.1 Heading (display current heading #, don't change figure or table #,
?????????????????????????????????? increment 1st subhead and reset lower sub-heading)
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 1-2
H:<n+>??????????????? 2 Heading
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-1
H:<n>.< ><n+>< >< >?? Table 2.1? (show current heading #, don't change figure #, increment table #,
????????????????????????????????? don't change sub-headings)
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-2
H:<n>< >< >.<n+>????? 2.1 Heading
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-3
H:<n>< >< >.<n>.<n+>? 2.1.1 Heading(display current heading #, don't change figure or table,
???????????????????????????????????? show 1st subhead and increment lower sub-heading)
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-4
and so forth.? As I'm not completely clear on how you are using either the $VolNum or $ChapNum variables (or corresponding numbering building blocks,) I have not shown those, and trust that this example will get you on the right path fairly quickly.
? Les
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From: "anirae at comcast.net" <anirae at comcast.net>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 4:22 PM
Subject: Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured
Framers,
Back on Frame after several years of being forced to use inferior products. The hang of it is returning, but I have a strange auto numbering issue. Hope you can help.
The figure numbering for the chapter breaks when I add auto numbered figures and tables.
Several files in the book. Each file is actually its own manual, and I want the book to see each as a volume (Vol 1, 2, 3, etc.). That's working OK. I want each file to start with chapter t after the preliminary pages (Title page and TOC). The Book is set up as follows:
1st file :
Volume: #1
Chapter: #1? (If I make this Read from File it doesn't change anything)
All other files:
Volume: Continue numbering from previous file in book.
Chapter: Read from File
Headings are H:Heading1, H:Heading2, etc.
If figure format is H:Figure<sectionnum>\t<n+>, I get:
2 Heading
2.1 Heading
Figure 1-5
Figure 1-6
1.6 Heading
Figure 1-7
really messed up
If figure format is F:Figure<n>\t<n+>, I get:
It does not recognize Heading 1 as <n> but Heading numbers are not influenced by inserting numbers, but the figures do not adopt the section number:
2.3 heading
Figure 1-3
Figure 1-4
2.3.1 Heading
Figure 1-6
If figure format is H:Figure<n>\t<n+><>.\t (as suggested by a post from some sight), I get:
1 Heading
Figure 0-1
Figure 0-2
2 Heading
Figure 0-3
2.3 Heading
Figure 0-4
2.3.1 Heading
Figure 0-5
What should I do to get:
1 Heading
Figure 1-1
1.1 Heading
Figure 1-2
2 Heading
Figure 2-1
Figure 2-2
2.1 Heading
Figure 2-3
2.1.1 Heading
Figure 2-4
and so forth
Thank you!
A
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Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:53:28 -0500
From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
To: anirae at comcast.net
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured
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Can you send your numbering properties for all the numbered tags? I'm
not sure without looking at them, but I have a feeling that you're
using the same counter position/building block for both the figures
and some of your section numbers.
If you look at this page, Adobe has a nice table about halfway down
the page showing how to set the building blocks up.
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSF176D8C8-8133-4860-88E3-AF69262623F0.html
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:22 PM, <anirae at comcast.net> wrote:
> Framers,
>
> Back on Frame after several years of being forced to use inferior products.
> The hang of it is returning, but I have a strange auto numbering issue. Hope
> you can help.
>
> The figure numbering for the chapter breaks when I add auto numbered figures
> and tables.
>
> Several files in the book. Each file is actually its own manual, and I want
> the book to see each as a volume (Vol 1, 2, 3, etc.). That's working OK. I
> want each file to start with chapter t after the preliminary pages (Title
> page and TOC). The Book is set up as follows:
> 1st file :
> Volume: #1
> Chapter: #1 (If I make this Read from File it doesn't change anything)
>
> All other files:
> Volume: Continue numbering from previous file in book.
> Chapter: Read from File
>
> Headings are H:Heading1, H:Heading2, etc.
>
> If figure format is H:Figure<sectionnum>\t<n+>, I get:
>
> 2 Heading
> 2.1 Heading
> Figure 1-5
> Figure 1-6
> 1.6 Heading
> Figure 1-7
> really messed up
>
> If figure format is F:Figure<n>\t<n+>, I get:
> It does not recognize Heading 1 as <n> but Heading numbers are not
> influenced by inserting numbers, but the figures do not adopt the section
> number:
>
> 2.3 heading
> Figure 1-3
> Figure 1-4
> 2.3.1 Heading
> Figure 1-6
>
> If figure format is H:Figure<n>\t<n+><>.\t (as suggested by a post from some
> sight), I get:
>
> 1 Heading
> Figure 0-1
> Figure 0-2
> 2 Heading
> Figure 0-3
> 2.3 Heading
> Figure 0-4
> 2.3.1 Heading
> Figure 0-5
>
> What should I do to get:
>
> 1 Heading
> Figure 1-1
> 1.1 Heading
> Figure 1-2
> 2 Heading
> Figure 2-1
> Figure 2-2
> 2.1 Heading
> Figure 2-3
> 2.1.1 Heading
> Figure 2-4
> and so forth
>
> Thank you!
> A
>
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