Typical auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured
Les Smalley
l_c_smalley at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 12 08:12:04 PST 2013
Hi Anirae!
the question marks that show in the attached were originally simply extra spaces in original post, in an attempt to align info about the numbering properties.
I'll try again with the sample output and description after the sample format:
H:<n+>
1 Heading (increment 1st level heading, reset all lower-level numbers: figures, tables and sub-headings)
H:<n>-<n+><
>< >< >
Figure 1-1 (show current heading #, increment
figure #, don't change table or sub-headings)
H:<n>< >< >.<n+>
1.1 Heading (display current heading #, don't change figure or table #, increment 1st subhead and reset lower sub-heading)
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >
Figure 1-2
H:<n+>
2 Heading
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >
Figure 2-1
H:<n>.< ><n+>< >< >
Table 2.1 (show current heading #,
don't change figure #, increment table #, don't change sub-headings)
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >
Figure 2-2
H:<n>< >< >.<n+>
2.1 Heading
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >
Figure 2-3
H:<n>< >< >.<n>.<n+>
2.1.1 Heading (display current heading #, don't change figure or table,show 1st subhead and increment lower sub-heading)
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >
Figure 2-4
I think the easiest way for you to debug the issue is to make a grid outlining the numbering formats: use a different column for each numbering building block position (e.g. 1st level heading, figure, table, 2nd level heading, and so forth); or maybe have two grids - one for the desired format and one for the format as actually defined in the file/template. In any planning layout like this, you should include ALL the formats that use numbering, e.g. chapter title, sections, headings, tables, figures, enumerated lists, even bullets, etc. so you can verify that there are no conflicts.
I do not have Frame 10, but if
you can downsave a copy of a file (use SAVE AS and choose FM 7) I'd be
happy to take a look at it. You can create a test file based on these formats, and just have some very short paragraphs of the various formats to illustrate the issues. Send to me directly, there's no need to burden the list.
I hope this helps.
- Les
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From: "anirae at comcast.net" <anirae at comcast.net>
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Hello Les,
I'm not sure what you mean by the question marks in your descriptions. Could you please explain?
I'm still having issues with the added "< >" tag not making any difference, and with the figures interfering with the section numbering (1.1, 1.2, etc.).
Thanks,
Anirae
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Framers,
Back on Frame after several years of being forced to use inferior products. The hang of it is returning, but I have a strange auto numbering issue. Hope you can help.
The figure numbering for the chapter breaks when I add auto numbered figures and tables.
Several files in the book. Each file is actually its own manual, and I want the book to see each as a volume (Vol 1, 2, 3, etc.). That's working OK. I want each file to start with chapter t after the preliminary pages (Title page and TOC). The Book is set up as follows:
1st file :
Volume: #1
Chapter: #1 (If I make this Read from File it doesn't change anything)
All other files:
Volume: Continue numbering from previous file in book.
Chapter: Read from File
Headings are H:Heading1, H:Heading2, etc.
If figure format is H:Figure<sectionnum>\t<n+>, I get:
2 Heading
2.1 Heading
Figure 1-5
Figure 1-6
1.6 Heading
Figure 1-7
really messed up
If figure format is F:Figure<n>\t<n+>, I get:
It does not recognize Heading 1 as <n> but Heading numbers are not influenced by inserting numbers, but the figures do not adopt the section number:
2.3 heading
Figure 1-3
Figure 1-4
2.3.1 Heading
Figure 1-6
If figure format is H:Figure<n>\t<n+><>.\t (as suggested by a post from some sight), I get:
1 Heading
Figure 0-1
Figure 0-2
2 Heading
Figure 0-3
2.3 Heading
Figure 0-4
2.3.1 Heading
Figure 0-5
What should I do to get:
1 Heading
Figure 1-1
1.1 Heading
Figure 1-2
2 Heading
Figure 2-1
Figure 2-2
2.1 Heading
Figure 2-3
2.1.1 Heading
Figure 2-4
and so forth
Thank you!
A
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From: Les Smalley <l_c_smalley at yahoo.com>
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"framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Hi Anirae!
If I read your message corrrectly, you want to have the figure numbers (and possibly also table numbers) increment? from 1 within each major section of the chapter containing them, and not interfere with or be altered by possible multiple levels of sub-sections.? The major section does reset them to start at one again.
For this to work, the figures, tables and headings will have to be in the same numbered series (e.g. F: or H:) but you also need to use placeholders - the empty building block < > (which does not alter, nor show the value) - for counters that should not be affected.
One suggestion is to create a grid of your numbering needs, so you can more easily see where you need to use the various types of numbering building block - display only (e.g. <n>), incrementing (e.g. <n+>) or ignoring (< > and note the space between the less-than and greater-than symbols)
Here is how I would setup your formats, assuming only three levels of headings (as per your example).? I've added a counter for tables as well, so there are 5 total numbering positions.
H:<n+>??????????????? 1 Heading (increment 1st level heading, reset all lower-level numbers: figures,
???????????????????????????????? tables and sub-headings)
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 1-1 (show current heading #, increment figure #, don't change table or
????????????????????????????????? sub-headings)
H:<n>< >< >.<n+>????? 1.1 Heading (display current heading #, don't change figure or table #,
?????????????????????????????????? increment 1st subhead and reset lower sub-heading)
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 1-2
H:<n+>??????????????? 2 Heading
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-1
H:<n>.< ><n+>< >< >?? Table 2.1? (show current heading #, don't change figure #, increment table #,
????????????????????????????????? don't change sub-headings)
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-2
H:<n>< >< >.<n+>????? 2.1 Heading
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-3
H:<n>< >< >.<n>.<n+>? 2.1.1 Heading(display current heading #, don't change figure or table,
???????????????????????????????????? show 1st subhead and increment lower sub-heading)
H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-4
and so forth.? As I'm not completely clear on how you are using either the $VolNum or $ChapNum variables (or corresponding numbering building blocks,) I have not shown those, and trust that this example will get you on the right path fairly quickly.
? Les
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From: "anirae at comcast.net" <anirae at comcast.net>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 4:22 PM
Subject: Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured
Framers,
Back on Frame after several years of being forced to use inferior products. The hang of it is returning, but I have a strange auto numbering issue. Hope you can help.
The figure numbering for the chapter breaks when I add auto numbered figures and tables.
Several files in the book. Each file is actually its own manual, and I want the book to see each as a volume (Vol 1, 2, 3, etc.). That's working OK. I want each file to start with chapter t after the preliminary pages (Title page and TOC). The Book is set up as follows:
1st file :
Volume: #1
Chapter: #1? (If I make this Read from File it doesn't change anything)
All other files:
Volume: Continue numbering from previous file in book.
Chapter: Read from File
Headings are H:Heading1, H:Heading2, etc.
If figure format is H:Figure<sectionnum>\t<n+>, I get:
2 Heading
2.1 Heading
Figure 1-5
Figure 1-6
1.6 Heading
Figure 1-7
really messed up
If figure format is F:Figure<n>\t<n+>, I get:
It does not recognize Heading 1 as <n> but Heading numbers are not influenced by inserting numbers, but the figures do not adopt the section number:
2.3 heading
Figure 1-3
Figure 1-4
2.3.1 Heading
Figure 1-6
If figure format is H:Figure<n>\t<n+><>.\t (as suggested by a post from some sight), I get:
1 Heading
Figure 0-1
Figure 0-2
2 Heading
Figure 0-3
2.3 Heading
Figure 0-4
2.3.1 Heading
Figure 0-5
What should I do to get:
1 Heading
Figure 1-1
1.1 Heading
Figure 1-2
2 Heading
Figure 2-1
Figure 2-2
2.1 Heading
Figure 2-3
2.1.1 Heading
Figure 2-4
and so forth
Thank you!
A
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From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
To: anirae at comcast.net
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Subject: Re: Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured
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Can you send your numbering properties for all the numbered tags? I'm
not sure without looking at them, but I have a feeling that you're
using the same counter position/building block for both the figures
and some of your section numbers.
If you look at this page, Adobe has a nice table about halfway down
the page showing how to set the building blocks up.
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSF176D8C8-8133-4860-88E3-AF69262623F0.html
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:22 PM, <anirae at comcast.net> wrote:
> Framers,
>
> Back on Frame after several years of being forced to use inferior products.
> The hang of it is returning, but I have a strange auto numbering issue. Hope
> you can help.
>
> The figure numbering for the chapter breaks when I add auto numbered figures
> and tables.
>
> Several files in the book. Each file is actually its own manual, and I want
> the book to see each as a volume (Vol 1, 2, 3, etc.). That's working OK. I
> want each file to start with chapter t after the preliminary pages (Title
> page and TOC). The Book is set up as follows:
> 1st file :
> Volume: #1
> Chapter: #1 (If I make this Read from File it doesn't change anything)
>
> All other files:
> Volume: Continue numbering from previous file in book.
> Chapter: Read from File
>
> Headings are H:Heading1, H:Heading2, etc.
>
> If figure format is H:Figure<sectionnum>\t<n+>, I get:
>
> 2 Heading
> 2.1 Heading
> Figure 1-5
> Figure 1-6
> 1.6 Heading
> Figure 1-7
> really messed up
>
> If figure format is F:Figure<n>\t<n+>, I get:
> It does not recognize Heading 1 as <n> but Heading numbers are not
> influenced by inserting numbers, but the figures do not adopt the section
> number:
>
> 2.3 heading
> Figure 1-3
> Figure 1-4
> 2.3.1 Heading
> Figure 1-6
>
> If figure format is H:Figure<n>\t<n+><>.\t (as suggested by a post from some
> sight), I get:
>
> 1 Heading
> Figure 0-1
> Figure 0-2
> 2 Heading
> Figure 0-3
> 2.3 Heading
> Figure 0-4
> 2.3.1 Heading
> Figure 0-5
>
> What should I do to get:
>
> 1 Heading
> Figure 1-1
> 1.1 Heading
> Figure 1-2
> 2 Heading
> Figure 2-1
> Figure 2-2
> 2.1 Heading
> Figure 2-3
> 2.1.1 Heading
> Figure 2-4
> and so forth
>
> Thank you!
> A
--
Lin Sims
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