Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

[Dov Isaacs]

Maybe we can just stop labelling people as "morons" or "incompetents" ...

And by the way, if you know anything about the real history of OS/2, you wouldn't be labelling them as "incompetents." The fact was that OS/2 was supposed to be the enterprise OS for PCs as a joint Microsoft / IBM project until Microsoft stabbed IBM in the back deciding to go their own way and back out of their commitments. Technically, OS/2 was far ahead of Windows'9x and early Windows NT!

            - Dov

From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauriston at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:48 PM
To: Dov Isaacs; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!


Yes, I figured that out. I believe I called Adobe tech support about

the problem, so they should be aware of it.



You're right, there's nothing wrong with the design of Adobe Pi. The

moron was whoever did the Zapf > Pi mapping in FrameMaker 8.



The UI makeover in FM9 was wrong in so many ways that it would be a

good negative example for UI design classes. Some of the people who

did the work might be competent but the people in charge are

world-class incompetents, up there with the geniuses behind OS/2,

Microsoft Bob, and Clippy.



On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Dov Isaacs <isaacs at adobe.com<mailto:isaacs at adobe.com>> wrote:

> Please see the response I sent out a few minutes ago. There is nothing wrong with the Adobe Pi font, but rather, there is a nasty mapping issue that should have been resolved in FrameMaker if they in fact had a .ini file setting mapping Type 1 Zapf Dingbats to Adobe Pi or any other OpenType version of Zapf Dingbats.

>

> And quite frankly, I think it is a hell of a lot of chutzpa on your part to label the designers of Adobe Pi as "morons." The font simply follows the international specifications for both OpenType fonts and Unicode encoding. How does that make them "morons?" Likewise, you may not like the UI makeover of FrameMaker (maybe I don't either), but that doesn't make those who designed and implemented it "morons."
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