Adding structured files into a book yields the wrong order in the structure

[Fred Ridder]

The strange, mostly inverted order issue you are seeing has always existed in FrameMaker ever since Windows allowed selection of multiple files in file dialogs. Adobe has always stated that the issue is caused by the way Windows passes the file pointers to applications, which is not the same as the order in which the user selects them. 

But I have no answer for the new elements being inserted in the wrong location relative to the insertion point because I have very little experience with structured mode.

-Fred Ridder

Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:57:49 +0000
From: simon.buch at m-ais.com
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Adding structured files into a book yields the wrong order in the	structure


  
    
  
  
    Dear Framers,

    

    This is a resend of my previous message - as I suspect the
    FrameUsers list doesn't allow for attachments - such as graphics -
    to be sent.

    

    

    I've been having a problem with adding FrameMaker structured
    documents into a structured book, and I wonder if any of you guys
    have experienced the same or similar effect.

    

    FWIW, I'm using FrameMaker 10, running on Windows7 - both with the
    latest patches installed. 

    The files are organised in sub-section documents, such as
    ENR_3_3_en.fm being the ENR 3.3 document, and sub-sub-section
    documents having additional numbering, such as: ENR_3_3_1_en.fm

    

    If I select a range of documents in an explorer window, and drag the
    documents inside the book file, I appear to be able to get the whole
    structure of the document messed up.  

    

    I dragged the files to be after the ENR_3_3_en.fm document, and
    before the ENR_3_4_en.fm document. The book file appears to have the
    documents in the correct order ENR_3_3_en.fm, followed by
    ENR_3_3_1_en.fm, ENR_3_3_2_en.fm, ENR_3_3_3_en.fm, etc. but the
    structure view shows that they are located after the
    ENR_3_5_en.fm document!  

    

    The effect of adding these documents gets even stranger when I
    noticed that the ENR_3_4_en.fm, ENR_3_5_en.fm, and ENR_3_6_en.fm -
    which were in the correct order before the
    drag-drop function, are somehow reversed.

    

    If I try rearranging some of the files in the structure view window,
    I have seen FrameMaker crash a few times.

    

    

    I managed to add the files in the correct order by:

    a. move the insertion pointer in the structure view

    b. select the FrameMaker Add > Files... menu item

    c. In the "Add Files to book" dialog, with the "details" being
    shown:

         reserve the Name sort order in the Windows dialog, so it shows
    Z - A ordering

    d. select the second file in the reversed order [e.g. the "y" file]

    e. shift-select the last file in the reversed order [e.g. the "a"
    file]

    f. control-select the first file in the reversed order [e.g. the "z"
    file]

    ... but even with this, I found that FrameMaker added the files into
    the book 2 elements after where I had moved the insertion
    pointer.

    

    

    Has anyone else observed these behaviours before?

    

    

    // Simon BUCH -- M-AIS

    // [still working with FrameMaker after all these years]

    

    

  


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