Adding structured files into a book yields the wrong order in the structure

Simon BUCH simon.buch at m-ais.com
Tue Jul 30 01:00:04 PDT 2013


Dear Russ & Framers,

I tried MIF washing, and book updating, all to no avail.
I suspect it's a nasty bug, but one that only a few people will experience.

Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS



On 29/07/2013 19:22, russ at weststreetconsulting.com wrote:
> Simon,
>
> A book structure representation is typically unreliable until after a
> book update. Did you try a book update after adding files?
>
> Also, related to the previous comment, you should avoid trying to move
> documents around by moving their root elements in the book structure
> tree. You should use the book window, then use a book update to
> automatically refresh the structure tree.
>
> Russ
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:57:49 +0000
> From: Simon BUCH <simon.buch at m-ais.com>
> To: 'Framers'
> Subject: Adding structured files into a book yields the wrong order in
>   the structure
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> Dear Framers,
>
> This is a resend of my previous message - as I suspect the FrameUsers
> list doesn't allow for attachments - such as graphics - to be sent.
>
>
> I've been having a problem with adding FrameMaker structured documents
> into a structured book, and I wonder if any of you guys have experienced
>
> the same or similar effect.
>
> FWIW, I'm using FrameMaker 10, running on Windows7 - both with the
> latest patches installed.
> The files are organised in sub-section documents, such as ENR_3_3_en.fm
> being the ENR 3.3 document, and sub-sub-section documents having
> additional numbering, such as: ENR_3_3_1_en.fm
>
> If I select a range of documents in an explorer window, and drag the
> documents inside the book file, I appear to be able to get the whole
> structure of the document messed up.
>
> I dragged the files to be after the ENR_3_3_en.fm document, and before
> the ENR_3_4_en.fm document. The book file appears to have the documents
> in the correct order ENR_3_3_en.fm, followed by ENR_3_3_1_en.fm,
> ENR_3_3_2_en.fm, ENR_3_3_3_en.fm, etc. but the structure view shows that
>
> they are located /after/ the ENR_3_5_en.fm document!
>
> The effect of adding these documents gets even stranger when I noticed
> that the ENR_3_4_en.fm, ENR_3_5_en.fm, and ENR_3_6_en.fm - which /were/
> in the correct order /before /the drag-drop function, are somehow
> reversed.
>
> If I try rearranging some of the files in the structure view window, I
> have seen FrameMaker crash a few times.
>
>
> I managed to add the files in the correct order by:
> a. move the insertion pointer in the structure view
> b. select the FrameMaker Add > Files... menu item
> c. In the "Add Files to book" dialog, with the "details" being shown:
>   reserve the Name sort order in the Windows dialog, so it shows Z -
> A ordering
> d. select the second file in the reversed order [e.g. the "y" file]
> e. shift-select the last file in the reversed order [e.g. the "a" file]
> f. control-select the first file in the reversed order [e.g. the "z"
> file]
> ... but even with this, I found that FrameMaker added the files into the
>
> book 2 elements /after/ where I had moved the insertion pointer.
>
>
> Has anyone else observed these behaviours before?
>
>
> // Simon BUCH -- M-AIS
> // [still working with FrameMaker after all these years]
>
>
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