Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

Scott Prentice sp10 at leximation.com
Thu Jun 13 08:04:32 PDT 2013 

Just to be clear .. I don't consider the inability to have the changing 
of an attribute affect the corresponding object property to be a bug 
(although it would be nice if it did) .. but if you're not able to 
modify the default value of an attribute/property by changing the 
underlying EDD or r/w rules, that would be a bug. I though that you 
could do that for image alignment, but can't check right now.

...scott


On 6/13/13 7:54 AM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
> I'll defer to any corrections Scott has on this topic, but I don't 
> think Adobe will consider this a bug.
>
> One of the advantages of using Fm to edit structure is that many 
> formatting attributes can be controlled via Fm's interactive properties.
>
> Attributes are typically mapped to Fm attributes via the Read/Write 
> rules in your structured application. To change that behavior, you 
> would change the files that make up the structured application.
>
>
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> On Jun 11, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Heather Thomas <hthomas at avbasesystems.com 
> <mailto:hthomas at avbasesystems.com>> wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much, Scott! I appreciate your feedback. When I was 
>> looking for an image properties dialog, I came across the Anchored 
>> Frame dialog and you're right, it does set the alignment attribute too.
>>
>> I will report the bug to Adobe because I'd prefer to not have to set 
>> that for each image!
>>
>> Heather
>>
>>
>> Scott Prentice <sp10 at leximation.com <mailto:sp10 at leximation.com>> , 
>> 6/11/2013 3:34 PM:
>>
>>     Hi Heather...
>>
>>     I believe that FM's default DITA support doesn't respond to
>>     editing the image attributes directly (might work with some of
>>     them). Select the anchored frame and choose Special > Anchored
>>     Frame, then select the desired alignment. This will set the frame
>>     alignment and *should* set the alignment attribute as well. There
>>     are a number of other properties/attributes that work this way as
>>     well. In general, it's set up to use the "GUI" property setting
>>     options rather than setting things via attributes.
>>
>>     You should be able set the default value in the EDD and the r/w
>>     rules, and it should honor that when inserting the image. If it
>>     doesn't, that's definitely a bug.
>>
>>     BTW .. DITA-FMx does these things properly.  :o
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     ...scott
>>
>>
>>     On 6/11/13 12:19 PM, Heather Thomas wrote:
>>>     Thank you, Nadine and Scott, for your replies.
>>>
>>>     Nadine: I am using FM 11 (sorry I didn't specify in my first
>>>     post). Yes, I want to change the default alignment of images. I
>>>     did change the default setting in the EDD and then import the
>>>     element definitions into my template. I know that the EDD was
>>>     imported because when I set choices vs. string, I could see the
>>>     choices in the Attributes pod. What I'm asking is why FrameMaker
>>>     is ignoring the default of left that I set and leaving it as <no
>>>     value>, but instead is making it center aligned when I save.
>>>     What's especially mysterious is that it actually says at the
>>>     bottom of the Attributes pod "align Type: Optional Choice
>>>     Default: left" but doesn't use that default value.
>>>
>>>     Scott: Thanks for your suggestion to "use the default image
>>>     properties dialog. Don't try setting the element attribute." I
>>>     happily excused your unexpected brevity because you sent your
>>>     message from your phone. :) Perhaps sometime when you are at
>>>     your computer, could you please elaborate on this? I can't find
>>>     the dialog you mentioned, and if this is actually a bug that I
>>>     can't set the element attribute using my EDD, then I would like
>>>     to report it. I have read your response on the following Adobe
>>>     forum post:http://forums.adobe.com/message/3681019. Like the
>>>     original poster there, the Anchored Frame dialog works properly
>>>     for me. Manually setting the attribute to left does what I would
>>>     expect as well. I have also ensured that I have the following in
>>>     my rules:
>>>     /attribute "align" {/
>>>
>>>     /    is fm attribute "align";/
>>>
>>>     /    is fm property alignment;/
>>>
>>>     /    value "left" is fm property value align left;/
>>>
>>>     Like I said before, it's not critical or anything, but it would
>>>     be nice if we could set the default alignment in the EDD and
>>>     have FM obey it.
>>>
>>>     Thanks again!
>>>     Heather
>>>
>>>     PS - Please note that there is a delay of at least 24 hours from
>>>     the time I post to the time my message appears on the list.
>>
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