Now OT: Re: Question about these frameusers lists

Steve Rickaby srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk
Mon Jun 24 03:33:02 PDT 2013


At 13:17 +1200 23/6/13, Helen Borrie wrote:

>On the lists I manage, there are some users who are just plain hopeless at using the lists.  They post bulky, fancy, junky HTML when list etiquette really needs more consideration for others ( P L A I N   T E X T  without screeds of company notices and adverts) and they include huge graphics as attachments because they are too darned lazy to copy just the text of error messages.  Most lists are set up to put large messages on hold. The high limit is usually set pretty low, about 1 - 5 KB.

I know this isn't relevant here, but I just shouted 'YES!, YES!' when I read this. I don't know whether it's some Microshaft default thing, and/or Yahoo's infuriatingly massive padding of mail headers, and/or laziness, but I see so much junk these days (although not here much). For example, I have a neighbour who spends most of his time working in France. He has been known to send me e-mails with four or five of his own (long) e-mails appended.

I guess those using HTML mail don't see it all, but I do in steam-driven but totally lovely Eudora. I have seen e-mails of 15-20k (or even more, and sometimes *much* more) containing only a single relevant line of message. My default sig below was to try to make people aware of this issue, but it has so far failed dismally. All this cr*p has to be stored somewhere, which takes disk space, which takes resources and energy, which is so far mostly generated from polluting sources. It's good to know that I'm not a lone voice crying in the wilderness. I like you, Helen, even though I don't know you.

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Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet]



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