Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing

Robert Lauriston robert at lauriston.com
Thu Oct 2 14:43:22 PDT 2014


If the heading is in the header or footer, you don't lose the title.

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> Not a bad idea, but this is the corporate style. We're also not
> single-sourcing. (We were moving to that, but then the company got acquired
> and the techcomm department was decentralized. But that's a whole other
> story.)
>
> Even if it were my call, I'm not sure I'd go that way. If the table splits
> across a page, you lose the title. And these tables can go on for a couple
> of pages, depending on the content..
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Robert Lauriston <robert at lauriston.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> In a situation like that, I use headings instead of table names. In a
>> single-source environment, headings are more flexible.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > For the registers, we list all the table names as active links in a
>> > table
>> > upfront. But if I am simply scanning through the tables, I find it
>> > easier to
>> > use the cursor button than the mouse wheel. Your mileage may, of course,
>> > vary.  There are also places where a brief paragraph introduces a set of
>> > tables. The data wouldn't work well combined into single table, and I'm
>> > not
>> > about to say, "The following table describes X" when I've already said
>> > it up
>> > above. It annoys my engineers and the customer engineers.
>> >
>> > If I were in a different environment producing docs for a different
>> > audience, I would very likely be introducing each table with some text.
>> > In
>> > this environment, with this highly technical audience, it is neither
>> > necessary nor wanted.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Robert Lauriston <robert at lauriston.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> How do users find the one they're looking for?
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in
>> >> > having
>> >> > text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of
>> >> > IP
>> >> > has
>> >> > about 500 or so of them.
>> >> >
>> >> > As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston
>> >> > <robert at lauriston.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would never have one table follow another without a heading or
>> >> >> explanatory text in between.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and
>> >> >> > putting
>> >> >> > each
>> >> >> > table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the
>> >> >> > beginning
>> >> >> > or
>> >> >> > end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > lot
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the
>> >> >> > other,
>> >> >> > so
>> >> >> > having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much
>> >> >> > difficult
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about
>> >> >> > putting a
>> >> >> > space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And
>> >> >> > (again)
>> >> >> > if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > make
>> >> >> > the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes
>> >> >> > up
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > spacing all over again but for a different reason.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers
>> >> >> > <srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own
>> >> >> >> paragraphs
>> >> >> >> instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding
>> >> >> >> paragraph?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it
>> >> >> >> seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Lin Sims
>> >
>> >
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>> > --
>> > Lin Sims
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