Adobe SourceSans Han // Google NotoSansCJK font -- FM does not print to PDF -- Bug?

[Heiko Haida]

Hello dear Hiro, 

thank you for testing this... 

The strange thing on my computer (german Win 7) is that some characters
are visible. 
I took only these and copied them until a whole page was filled -- this
printed fine in the PDF. Other characters would still disappear.
Klicking on "RGB" did not change this. 

I read that some Windows security patches from Microsoft sometimes have
influences on the font display.
The last patch with this side effect was KB2982791 dating from August
'14. 

Maybe it is not only related to FrameMaker (I tested it in version 8 and
12), but also to Windows. I do not know why it works well in Indesign,
though.
Maybe the OTF-compatibility of FrameMaker is not well enough for a font
with 2^16=65535 characters. 

So, I will see if FM 13 can do better. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

OISHIHIROFUMI: 

> Dear Heiko, 
> 
> Hello. I've tried creating a PDF with Adobe SourceSans Han font (Chinese Simplified) on the following set: 
> 
> FrameMaker: Ver. 12 (Japanese Ver.) 
> OS: Windows 7 Pro (Japanese Ver.) 
> Joboption: Press Quality 
> How to create PDF: Save as PDF... 
> Used font: SourceHanSansCN-Bold, SourceHanSansCN-Medium, SourceHanSansCN-Regular 
> 
> The result is as follows: 
> When I have selected "CMYK" on the Save as PDF dialog -> Failed 
> 
> When I have selected "RGB" on the Save as PDF dialog -> Successed 
> 
> The problem should be same as the CMYK/RGB problem (often reported on the list), I think... 
> 
> Best Regards, 
> Hiro. Oishi 
> simandl at mac.com 
> 
> 2015年2月12日 19:10、Heiko Haida <info at heiko-haida.de>さんのメッセージ：
> 
>> Hi Framers, hi Adobe experts, 
>> 
>> I read about the Adobe / Google project of inventing a type with a complete Unicode basic plane 0 (--> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_Han_Sans). 
>> 
>> So I found a website where I downloaded the Adobe versions (which is "Source Sans Han"; in the sc version), and also from Google I got the "NotoSansCJK" fonts (which are said to contain the same glyphs). 
>> 
>> When I use the standard chinese (sc) versions of these fonts in FrameMaker 12 (and FM 8, on Win7), on screen everything looks fine, but the resulting PDF is -->empty!
>> ("Empty" means that there is no font information on the page at all, nothing is reported missing, only some characters from other fonts will show up, the rest is absolutely blank.)
>> I tried rebuilding the Windows font cache, but without change in the output. 
>> 
>> --> The same text in Indesign will print fine with these fonts as PDF. 
>> 
>> So whats the problem here? Why can't FrameMaker do this...?
>> Is the font too "big"? 
>> 
>> I know that Opentype features are not available in FM (yet). But until now, I always thought that that there would be no problems with using normal CJK fonts.
>> Of course I remember the "font cache problem" of the old days of Windows XP which caused an ongoing dementia concerning the characters (which could fortunately be cured with a patch from Microsoft). 
>> 
>> As this font project was developed by Adobe, I guess some of you Adobe folks might come up with an answer (or solution?) for this. 
>> 
>> Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin
 
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