[Framers] FW: Negative Spread/Run-In Paragraph Problem in FrameMaker 2015

[Heiko Haida]

Hi Rick, 

you are right, that is strange. 
But let's see it as it is: 

-- We use a centered tab in the numbering and a high negative spread to
get text after a run-in-paragraph to be positioned over this first
paragraph. 
I think that is magic all the way. 

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Ok, to give you a workaround: Pls find attached a new font file called
bigbullet3. I have set the bullet character to only half the calculated
width. 
You only have to switch the "bullet" format from bigbullet2 to
bigbullet3 -- it works for both older and the new FM version 2015 (at
least in my test file does this). The spread can remain as is (-42). 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Rick Quatro: 

> Hello Framers,
> 
> Anyone from Adobe monitoring the list? I got the email below from a client
> of mine and can confirm what he is seeing. Something has changed from
> FrameMaker 12 to 2015 that is causing the issue below. I have a sample file
> that I can forward if someone wants to take a look at it. Please let me know
> if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much.
> 
> Rick
> 
> Rick Quatro
> 
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 
> 585-366-4017
> 
> rick at frameexpert.com
> 
> I would dearly love to have your feedback on a problem I'm having with
> FrameMaker 2015. In Version 11, I successfully developed numbered bullets,
> and as part of my research for this, I remember contacting you, which you
> may or may not recall since it's been so long.
> 
> Numbered bullets are constructed as two paragraphs.
> 
> The first paragraph contains just one character (a bullet), in a font called
> BigBullet2.ttf. That first paragraph is a run-in paragraph.
> 
> The second paragraph starts with a tab, followed by an autonumber, followed
> by another tab. The autonumber is white.
> 
> Setting the spread in the first paragraph to -42% enables me to achieve the
> effect of having the white autonumber center over the black bullet.
> 
> But with FrameMaker 2015, the spread feature when used in conjunction with a
> run-in paragraph no longer works properly. At -42%, the autonumber hangs out
> at the right edge. I tried increasing the spread, and was able to improve
> the position slightly. But the maximum response is at -53.3%, which is not
> enough negative spread to center the number.
> 
> To illustrate:
> 
> In Frame 11 I have produced a whole array of technical manuals with numbered
> bullets in them. The prospect of now replacing them with plain bullets is
> daunting and of course undesirable.
> 
> Of course the best option is for Adobe to fix the spread command/run-in
> command so they work together the way they used to.
> 
> Do you happen to have any influence with Adobe to ask them to fix the
> problem?
> 
> I have attached the Frame file, in case you have the time/interest to
> experiment and find a solution.
> 
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