[Framers] Conditional Expression build crashing FrameMaker with Internal Errors

[Robert Lauriston]

If you have much content that is used in all versions, defining
conditional text to be excluded with NOT is simpler and less work.

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> One of the "rules" I learned somewhere was to either have all your
> conditions say what the text is IN, or have them all say what the text is
> NOT in, because (I was told) it could get confusing if some conditions were
> for when you did want text and others where for when you didn't want it.  I
> generally pick what I want the text to be in.
>
> So my environment at the moment has two separate IPs, and two (or maybe 3)
> separate audiences, so that was how I defined my conditions (plus the two
> spare that are only seen in review drafts).
>
> People inside the company get to see everything for a particular IP, so
> their book has generic plus internal information for the IP plus the one
> special customer's information for the IP.
>
> People outside the company (who aren't the specific customer) get to see the
> generic information for the IP.
>
> People who work for that one special customer get to see the generic
> information for the IP plus the customer-specific information for the IP but
> NOT the internal information for the IP.
>
> I had considered doing separate tags for each combination, but I could see
> the number of possible combinations getting wildly out of hand.
>
> There's the additional issue that I while I usually know which IP the
> information is for (if it isn't generic), I don't always know who the
> audience is. It can change. The IP has been known to change. ("Oh, we said
> it was IP A and everyone could see it? Sorry, it's actually for both IP A
> and IP B, but only we and Cust01 get to see it.")
>
> Robert's "not" suggestion seems to be working correctly to generate the 6
> books I believe I'll need, but I will probably do some more testing to be
> sure, since I don't entirely understand how Frame is handling conditions. I
> honestly thought I had to explicitly state all the combinations I did want
> and all the ones I didn't want (hence the crashes and the plea for help).
>
> Again, thanks to all (and particularly Robert) for all the help.
>
> Time to go home.
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Robert Lauriston <robert at lauriston.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Generally speaking, when defining a set of conditions, you want to (1)
>> minimize the amount of text that has to be tagged, (2) minimize
>> multiple tagging, (3) maximize unconditional text, and (4) define the
>> minimum number of conditions to achieve that.
>>
>> Sometimes that means defining conditions for text to be included,
>> other times it means defining conditions for text to be excluded. Best
>> practice, those should be named so as to indicate their function, for
>> example IncludeInFoo, OnlyInFoo, and ExcludeFromFoo.
>>
>> I'm not sure why an Internal tag would ever be combined with any other
>> tag. External should be unnecessary since it means the same thing as
>> the absence of the Internal tag.
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Yours is a more elegant solution. As I said before, this is my first
>> > go-around with Conditional expressions. It didn't help at all that the
>> > standard I was told to apply here was to tag text with the condition for
>> > the
>> > book I want to produce. That produced some odd results I can no longer
>> > recall (mostly because I had text tagged for both Internal and Cust01).
>> >
>> > What I wound up with, in variations, is as follows:
>> >
>> > For a book where I want IP A and Cust01, but not IP B or Internal, I
>> > used:
>> >
>> > "IP A" or "Cust01" and not ("IP B" or ("IP A" and "Internal"))
>> >
>> > It works.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Robert Lauriston <robert at lauriston.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ("A" or "External" or ("A" and "External")) could be simplified to
>> >>
>> >> ("A" or "External")
>> >>
>> >> not (("A" and "Internal") or "B" or ("B" and "External") or "TBP or
>> >> "WriterNote")
>> >>
>> >> could be simplified to
>> >>
>> >> not ("A" and "Internal") or "B"  or "TBP or "WriterNote")
>> >>
>> >> But it's not clear why you can't just use
>> >>
>> >> not ("Internal" or "B"  or "TBP or "WriterNote")
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