[Framers] xref from FM file created by DITA-FMx to unstructured Frame?

Tue Nov 22 13:35:05 PST 2016

Ah .. so aren't they "DITA" files rather than FM files? If they are DITA 
files and are in the same ditamap which is built into the same book then 
PDF .. then yes, just insert a fm-xref, select the target DITA file, 
then select the target element, and you should be good to go!

But this doesn't work with FM files and especially with unstructured FM 
files.

Cheers,
...scott

On 11/22/16 1:29 PM, Lin Sims wrote:
> Oh, dear. I think I've misled you.
>
> Both FM files are in the same book, which is turned into a single PDF 
> file. Everything is internal to that PDF file. I have done it before, 
> I'd simply forgotten I had to do this down on the server.
>
> It's been a stressful couple of weeks, and my brain went to la-la land.
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Scott Prentice <sp14 at leximation.com 
> <mailto:sp14 at leximation.com>> wrote:
>
>     Linking an xref (of fm-xref) to a target in a FM file will never
>     result in the link going to a PDF file that's generated from that
>     FM file. The only way for an xref to link to a PDF is to use an
>     external xref, and set the @href attribute to the file name of the
>     target PDF file (assuming the target PDF is in the same folder as
>     the PDF that you're linking from). Even then I'm not sure it'll
>     work, but in theory it should. If you want to link to a target
>     within a PDF, you'll need to add the necessary coding to the @href
>     attribute that will make that happen. Off hand I'm not sure what
>     that coding is, but in theory it's possible .. I think.
>
>     The problem with linking to the source FM file, is that it won't
>     know what the yet-to-be-created PDF file name is, and that's
>     really what you need .. the PDF links to a PDF, not to a FM file.
>
>     To create an external xref, insert an "xref" (not an fm-xref), and
>     choose the "External" button from that dialog. This will let you
>     specify the href (either a path/filename or a URL to the PDF
>     file), the link text, and the scope (choose "external"). This
>     should set the @format attribute to "pdf".
>
>     When you generate the book (and then the PDF) from the ditamap, if
>     the resulting PDF is placed in the same folder as the linked PDF,
>     the link in the "DITA" PDF should open the target "FM" PDF. Be
>     sure to select the "Convert xrefs to Hyperlinks" in the Book Build
>     Options dialog when generating the book from the ditamap in FMx.
>
>     I hope that helps.
>
>     ...scott
>
>
>
>     On 11/22/16 12:15 PM, Lin Sims wrote:
>>     I don't care if it works in Frame, as long as it works in the PDF!
>>
>>     And I suspect part of the problem is, as I said, because I was
>>     not working in the fully structured environment we maintain on
>>     our server. FM2016 is set to the structured interface on my
>>     personal laptop (we all have it that way), but without the
>>     EDD/DTD, I couldn't get anything meaningful in the elements list.
>>     Once I used the server-installation of FM, I was able to add an
>>     fm-xref, which is I think an internal definition(? or yours, I
>>     forget which) that allows us to refer to paragraph tags as well
>>     as elements for xrefs.
>>
>>     With luck, FM2015 will be installed on the server soon, and
>>     things will do what I want them to do.
>>
>>     On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Scott Prentice
>>     <sp14 at leximation.com <mailto:sp14 at leximation.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         FYI .. no, not possible (in a meaningful way) to create an
>>         xref from a DITA file to an unstructured FM file. In theory
>>         you could create an "external" xref to the FM file, but the
>>         best you could hope for would be that it would open the FM
>>         file in FM when the link was clicked (and likely that
>>         wouldn't even work).
>>
>>         ...scott
>>
>>
>>         On 11/22/16 10:48 AM, Lin Sims wrote:
>>
>>             Never mind, figured out that (part of the problem) is
>>             that I was working
>>             with my local version of Frame, that has no links to an
>>             EDD/DTD. The server
>>             version (which does) works fine.
>>
>>             Now to get the tools guy to upgrade the server from FM12
>>             to FM2015, so I
>>             don't have to save down for everything.
>>
>>             On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Lin Sims
>>             <ljsims.ml at gmail.com <mailto:ljsims.ml at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Is this even possible? I've got both files open, but
>>                 when I try to insert
>>                 an xref, I only get the DITA menu and it won't let me
>>                 select anything but
>>                 elements. Which the other file doesn't have, of
>>                 course, it not being
>>                 DITA/xml.
>>
>>                 I tried to email Scott directly, but I got a bounce,
>>                 so I obviously have
>>                 the wrong address.
>>
>>                 --
>>                 Lin Sims
>>
>>
>>
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