[Framers] PDFs in a FM book file
David Artman
david at davidartman.com
Tue Mar 21 08:21:55 PDT 2017
No, I mean a form that changes its fields based on other fields. For
instance, radio buttons at the top that read "Customer" and "Support"
and, when selected, make different fields appear below them.
If TimeSavers can do THAT, nowadays, then I stand corrected (and in
awe).
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Framers] PDFs in a FM book file
From: Lin Sims <[1]ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, March 21, 2017 10:00 am
To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
<[2]framers at lists.frameusers.com>
If by a dynamic form you're talking about a PDF form that can be filled
in
and saved, then yes, it can. There's a plugin for forms call Forms
Assistant. Fillable fields, drop-down selection, radio buttons, check
marks, the works. I took one of his courses years ago, and the order
form
was a PDF he made using Frame and TimeSavers. It was very slick.
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:46 AM, David Artman
<[3]david at davidartman.com> wrote:
> Oh, yes, I'm well aware of MicroType TimeSavers. I do not think they
> will do dynamic forms, though.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Framers] PDFs in a FM book file
> From: Lin Sims <[1][4]ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, March 20, 2017 4:18 pm
> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
> <[2][5]framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Dave,
> If you want to create forms and other things in Frame for output to
> PDF,
> check out Shlomo Perets' Microtypes website. His TimeSavers tools
> insert
> postscript code into Frame files to do things like create dynamic
> forms.
> [3][6]http://microtype.com/showcase.html
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:52 PM, David Artman
> <[4][7]david at davidartman.com> wrote:
> > You can use Acrobat Pro to append a PDF file to another PDF file,
in
> > whole or in part, and (IIRC) at any location using Document >
Insert
> > Pages.
> >
> > Yes, this adds a step (or more!) to workflow. Yes, the inserted PDF
> > will have its own footers, etc; and thus, you might have to do some
> > fancy footwork with page numbering in the two source files to get
it
> > all to align. Yes, any other autonumbering will be similarly
> > problematic, requiring you to force it to start with a specific
value
> > (e.g., n=25). But you'll have a PDF "in" another PDF.
> >
> > As for "is [it] recommended", I think it's a good practice if you
get
> > content from a business partner, legal, or some other entity that
> would
> > not want you to have any chance of editing it. (Hmm... but such a
> > locked-down PDF might not be appendable, in part or in whole, to
> > another one? And you can always use Advanced Text Tools on unlocked
> > PDFs, so maybe this use case ISN'T a good one! You'd probably have
to
> > insert into FrameMaker as full-page "images" if locked down.)
> >
> > OK, another use case is a PDF created in another editor, for
example
> a
> > dynamic form made in LiveCycle Designer. VERY hard to do such
things
> in
> > FrameMaker, but easy in LCD. I've never tried that workflow, but it
> > seems kosher.
> >
> > Finally, you could have an 'example' PDF that is a sample of output
> > resulting from a process that is documented in the earlier PDF.
That
> > would avoid you having to setup several master pages in the same
book
> > to show the variations. OR, if you are, say, making a training
manual
> > for using your publishing environment, and you want to show a
sample
> of
> > all the output types, but Help won't append: make the Help output
> save
> > as PDF and then append tot he "how to" main PDF:
> >
> > * How To Run Output (1 PDF with 'internal style')
> >
> > ** PDF Output Example (1 PDF of single-sourced sample book with
> > 'external style')
> >
> > ** Help Output Example (1 PDF of single-sourced sample book
rendered
> as
> > Help then exported/saved as PDF)
> >
> > ** (etc.)
> >
> > So, sure! It's recommended in cases where sourcing everything in
> > FrameMaker is impossible, too time consuming, or a poor
content-reuse
> > scenario. Hope this helps;
> >
> > David
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [Framers] PDFs in a FM book file
> > From: lklane64 <[1][5][8]lklane64 at gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, March 17, 2017 9:35 am
> > To: [2][6][9]framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > I was wondering if anyone answered the question about adding PDFs
to
> a
> > FM book file. Does anyone know if this is possible or even
> > recommended?
> > Thanks in advance,Laura
> >
> > References
> >
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