[Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

Wed May 3 07:46:27 PDT 2017

Peter, thanks for making me laugh. I'd never heard about the lorem ipsum translation.

Pat

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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+pat.christenson=morningstar.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold
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Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

So, the ancient recollection of something eating keystrokes was generically on the right troubleshooting path. Hooray!

As to other old memories:

FullWrite Professional (a promising feature-filled Mac word processor) had the fantastic ability to randomly animate bullet points, so, there was no reason to get bored while staring at pages of pithy tech content on screen.
You could just watch and wait for one or more of them to hop around.

Then, there was the post claiming that "lorem ipsum" placeholder text wasn't randomly-generated, but was arguably written by indentured scribes, forerunners of technical writers, because the translation was something like "we love to write and beat ourselves with sticks."

Cheers!

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Ken Poshedly <poshedly at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> So all-in-all, it's just Adobe emulating Microsoft.
> (What does he mean by that?) Back in 2006 while I was contracting for 
> an engineering firm and ordered to use only Word "so the engineers 
> could correct my work." (Ptooey!) I remember an incident where I used 
> Word's paragraph tag-method to tag bulleted text.
> I was on page 125 or so, tagged something bullet and voila!, every 
> bullet in the book disappeared, yet all "bulleted text" was still tagged that way.
> I tried everything I knew to fix things but to no avail.
> But, ah, thank heavens for Ctrl-Z. Everything returned, except for the 
> last bullet that I worked on. I don't remember how I "fixed" things 
> that day, but I did post a message on the tech-wrl e-mail list, asking 
> how could Microsoft let this happen.
> The reply / replies were basically, "Because Microsoft CAN (let this
> happen) because it doesn't matter to them since we're just peons."
>
>
>     On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 4:21 PM, Robert Lauriston < 
> robert at lauriston.com> wrote:
>
>
>  It's an artifact of the nonstandard, buggy UI Adobe layered on top of 
> the legacy FrameMaker code in FM9. The API or whatever that transmits 
> the keystrokes from the new layer to the legacy code occasionally 
> stops working.
>
> I've never seen similar behavior in any other application on the 
> half-dozen systems where I've run FM9 or later. I never used anything 
> but a generic keyboard with the default driver.
>
> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Peter Gold 
> <peter at petergold.photography>
> wrote:
> > Just a couple of wild thoughts pulled from long-ago experiences:
> >
> > It sounds as if the normal flow of keystrokes is being affected somehow.
> >
> > In the hardware domain, is it possible that there are keyboard 
> > driver issues - updates needed, multiple conflicting keyboards or 
> > other input devices, multiple display screens and associated 
> > drivers? Less exotic, is it possible that the usual physical 
> > keyboard itself has intermittent keys or connections? If it's 
> > wireless, does connecting it with a cable fix the issue? Charging or 
> > replacing its battery? Does the problem persist when substituting a different keyboard?
> >
> > In the software domain, are there utilities running in background, 
> > like font managers, display customizers, or screen-capture demons?
> >
> > System domain: Does varying the settings for keyboard repeat speed 
> > and other adjustments affect the problem? What about
> trackpad/touchpad/graphics
> > tablet sensitivity settings?
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