[Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

Wed May 3 11:14:25 PDT 2017

If you're talking about the Esc shortcuts, I hadn't heard that they'd been
deprecated. They're certainly still documented in the Keyboard Shortcuts
appendix (up through FrameMaker 2015).

I don't know if I'd expect Adobe to fix earlier versions, but it would be
nice if it could be fixed for at least the current version.

Also, having standard Windows shortcuts like Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, or Ctrl+P fail
is an issue (this has happened to me intermittently), and I would certainly
expect a fix for that.

NB: The Esc shortcuts I've had issues with had to do with movement in
tables (move to cell above or below), and they have not worked since
Frame8. On the other hand, somewhere around FM12 (10?) we got the ability
to use cursor keys to navigate between rows, and I haven't tried to use
those except to see if they worked. I've also had issues with copying table
widths, but that one is intermittent. Mostly it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I haven't tried to test any of the shortcuts, I just noticed the ones that
didn't work when I tried to use them.

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Fred Ridder <DocuDoc at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I would be very surprised to see any bug fixes for older versions of
> FrameMaker. What would be the business case for Adobe expending resources
> that produce absolutely no revenue? If the bug related to a security issue
> or file corruption that caused users t lose work, that would be one thing.
> But a long-standing bug that only annoys users who are trying to use
> deprecated or undocumented features? I'd say that's pretty unlikely to ever
> have resources allocated to it.
>
> -FR
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> Let's see what happens with bug-fixes to the older versions.
>
>
> Craig
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> on behalf of Ken Poshedly <poshedly at bellsouth.net>
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> Many, many thanks Rick!
> If an update or bug-fix is released, it will hopefully apply downward to
> at least FM10 (which I run at home) and FM11 (which I run at my office)
> because I know for sure that my company will NEVER update to a newer
> version because it costs money. (Plus, I myself prefer to have all my stuff
> -- program and data files -- right on my own hard drive.)
> -- Ken in Atlanta
>
>
>     On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:20 AM, Klaus Daube <frame at daube.ch> wrote:
>
>
>  On 2 May 2017 at 14:36, Ken Poshedly wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> > At least every other day, and for no reason obvious to me, all keyboard
> shortcuts in FrameMaker will stop working after awhile and all tasks must
> be done via menus-and-mouse. For me, this such a PITA. And it happened
> again this morning. This has been going on forever. (Well, you know what I
> mean.)
> >
> > The only fix I know of is to close everything, exit FM, re-open FM and
> so forth.
>
> Ken, I have filed a bug FRMAKER-2325 stating that frequently all CTRL+xx
> shortcuts do
> not work any more. On my system (W7 XP1, x64) this 'feature' exists since
> about
> FM-11. I hoped it would go away with a fresh Windows installation on a new
> laptop -
> but it did not. So it definetely must be something with FrameMaker.
>
> I have even discovered that the following actions can trigger the fault:
> - switch to another application (e.g. text editor) and back to FM
> - switch to Pincackle Studio (a video editor) and back reproduceably
> creates the
> fault.
>
> I have just added to that bug report:
> «It seems that not only CTRL-xxx shortcuts are affected, but all Windows
> specific
> short cuts (not the ESC sequences). See the lengthy lamento on
> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers@lists.frameusers.com/msg66590.html
> and following
> posts.»
>
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