[Framers] Frame 15 UI annoyances

[Craig Ede]

Yes, there are problems with things like bullets as I recall. I remember seeing such problems when I was working in translation. If they had to backsave for FM versions before Unicode, the best way was to save as mif Frame 7.


Craig

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From: Framers <framers-bounces+craigede=hotmail.com at lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of Rick Quatro <rick at rickquatro.com>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:58 AM
To: Bertrand.Meyer at inf.ethz.ch; 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
Cc: meyer at inf.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame 15 UI annoyances

The main reason for two different MIF versions is that FrameMaker 8 and
above is unicode "compliant" while FrameMaker 7 and below uses the
FrameRoman character set. I am not sure what this means in practice; in
other words, if you open a 2015 MIF file with FrameMaker 7, will there be
problems with certain characters? I haven't tried it so I don't know.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bertrand Meyer [mailto:Bertrand.Meyer at inf.ethz.ch]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:25 AM
To: 'Rick Quatro'; 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker
software.'
Cc: meyer at inf.ethz.ch
Subject: RE: [Framers] Frame 15 UI annoyances

Simple. My license is purchased. With Adobe's licensing scheme, I am
concerned that if for example my computer dies I could lose access to
FrameMaker 2015 any time and hence lose access to my documents. My
experience of dealing with Adobe is not good (euphemism) and I fear it could
take weeks to get the license back, if at all. I have licenses for earlier
versions on various platforms and with a MIF 7.0 I can in an emergency get
access to my documents.

By the way, going to an incompatible version of MIF was a betrayal of the
FrameMaker tradition. It had always been the case that in processing MIF
files the tool took a hands-off approach to MIF, in the spirit of XML: new
versions could add all the new features they wanted, but when retrieving a
document FrameMaker would ignore anything it did not understand, so that as
long as you did not use the new features you were safe and could go back to
an old version. That is the idea behind MIF: "I" stands for Interchange.

For the record I have been using FrameMaker since 1991  and have written
something like 12 books and dozens of articles with it. I cannot afford to
lose them.

-- Bertrand Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:rick at rickquatro.com]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 16:05
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FrameMaker software.' <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: [Framers] Frame 15 UI annoyances

Hi Bertrand,

What is your reason for saving as MIF 7.0 instead of MIF 2015? Thanks.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
rick at frameexpert.com
585-366-4017




-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Bertrand Meyer
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:32 AM
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Cc: meyer at inf.ethz.ch
Subject: [Framers] Frame 15 UI annoyances

FrameMaker 2015, 13.00.333

1. I am saving in MIF 7.0. Any way to get rid of the pesky dialog that warns
me each time that I am losing information (I am not)?  It's driving me
crazy.
2. I unchecked "Auto backup on Save" in Preferences, but I still get my
folders polluted with silly x.auto.fm files. How can I get rid of them?

These issues did not arise with earlier versions.

Thanks in advance,

-- Bertrand Meyer

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