[Framers] FrameMaker variable language

louisek at mchsi.com louisek at mchsi.com
Mon Nov 6 02:58:03 PST 2017


Hi Art -

The translation company I used to work for had a Trados department that would create an extra file (we called it the ancil, but I think it's the same as the variable file Alison mentioned) that contained all the autonumbering and variable text that's used in the Frame files. The translator would translate the text, if needed, or choose what was already in the translation memory. Then the translator would send all files back, and the Trados dept. would combine the ancil/variable file with the main Frame files so the correct translation was in place, and would be consistent with any previous translation. 

If you get a file where that type of translation is missing, you might ask the client about it. The Trados dept. may just have neglected to combine the files. The client would want the ancil/variable text used, for consistency. Also, if they combine the ancil/variable with the main Frame files, it will save you from having to manually import the text into each file, and possibly overwriting previously approved text, as Winfried mentioned.

Something else: text on the Reference Pages does not get picked up in the ancil file, and needs to be copied to a separate file or placed on the Body Pages to be translated. Also, unless the table continuation variable marker is on the Body Pages when it goes through translation (AND they use an ancil/variable file), it wouldn't get translated either. 

Hope this is helpful. I fear it's probably more than you wanted to know. 

Louise

Louise Kaufman1502 Meadowbrook Drive
Mason City, IA 50401
641.424.2138
louisek at mchsi.com


----- Original Message -----
From: Dr. Winfried Reng <wreng at tycoint.com>
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Sent: Mon, 06 Nov 2017 03:28:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker variable language

Hi,

Some years ago I had noticed that only those variables or cross-reference
formats or paragraph autonumbering definitions are imported in a
translation memory system (Trados) which are actually used in the document.
All those which are not used are not imported.
When you edit a variable which is not translated and then import
all variable definitions into another file, you might overwrite already
translated variable definitions in the other file.

I do not know, if this had changed. And it could be that some translation
memory systems handle this issue differently.

Best regards

Winfried

-----Original Message-----
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of A Craig
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 12:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker variable language

Art:

For next time, make sure the translators are given instructions to translate
the relevant variables in the variable file (you may need to specify the
specific variables) as well as any auto-numbering para formats that contain
words (eg, Chapter, Appendix, etc).

I always provide a specific variable file for the translators to use with
instructions on importing the variables into the book.

Alison



-----Original Message-----
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw.ca at lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: October 31, 2017 8:01 AM
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Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker variable language

May be a novice question for you guys who work in translation, but it's new
to me.

I'm updating an already translated-into-Spanish document with some new
screen shots (I don't speak Spanish, so I'm not messing with the text at
all). The problem is that the variables, like the Table Continuation, are
coming in as English instead of Spanish.

How can I get it to read "continuado" instead of "continued," hopefully
without messing up my installation too much?

Art Campbell
 art.campbell at gmail.com
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