[Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 142, Issue 17
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Mon Jan 29 15:03:43 PST 2018
Catherine, If you are importing images or PDF files, that font might be
in one of those.
An alternative is to edit maker.ini and alias SymbolBolded to Symbol,
Bold.
Grant
On January 29, 2018 at 3:54 PM Catherine Forrest wrote:
Stefan, SymbolBolded is reported as missing even though the docs
have no bolded symbols. The Symbol character tag with no weight is
applied.
SymbolBolded is not in the Fonts pod. I've searched for it with no
luck. It's not on the body, reference, or master pages. I've even
looked at one of the MIF files and didn't see Symbol Bolded
anywhere.
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1. Re: Getting rid of missing fonts (Stefan Gentz) 2. Re: Simplified
Chinese and Latin Quotation Marks (Stefan Gentz)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 19:18:04 +0000
From: Stefan Gentz
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Cc: Catherine Forrest
Subject: Re: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts
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Which font (exactly) was reported as missing before you tried to get
rid of it by turning off "Remember missing font names"? And which
font (exactly) is reported as missing now?
I'm asking, because FM replaces fonts by a standard mappings (see
maker.ini). And maybe something like "Fontname1 Heavy" was replaced
with "Fontname2 Heavy" (which might be not present as well) or
somethings replacement problems come up with Bold, Italic,
BoldItalic replacements.
?
Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts
Thanks to everyone for suggestions on how to get rid of missing
fonts. I had already tried those things, unfortunately, and they
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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:19:09 +0000
From: Stefan Gentz
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Simplified Chinese and Latin Quotation Marks
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Hi,
Heiko Haida wrote:
the symbols U+201C and U+201D have to be used for the double quotes
(in Simplified Chinese).
At least as long as it's actually a "Quotation Mark." (for a
quotation).
If it's a title mark (e.g. for a book, or e.g. a chapter heading)
fullwidth double angle brackets should be used as primary quotes):
??? (U+300A left double angle bracket, U+300B right double angle
bracket)
For embedding fullwidth single angle brackets, ??? (U+3008 left
angle bracket, U+3009 right angle bracket) should be used (like
this: ???????)
(I hope the Chinese characters in this mail will make it through the
list software.)
I was discussing the use of quotation marks long and broad with
several Chinese TechComm experts at tcworld China Conference in
Shanghai last spring and with Chinese typography experts after the
conference. Final recommendation was to use ???in cross-references
to the title of other documents or subheadings (in the same or
external document). Same also if you reference to titles of other
documentations (like mentioning "Administrator Guide" in the "User
Guide") or mentioning official papers, standard documents etc.
That is, this would be the "perfect" way. However, I was confirmed
that Chinese readers are also okay with the use of ??? in all
scenarios - especially when they know, that the text was typeset by
non-Chinese people. (But I guess it might be nice to avoid that this
impression comes up.)
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Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 00:09
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Simplified Chinese and Latin Quotation Marks
Hi Rick,
the symbols U+201C and U+201D have to be used for the double quotes.
The problem you describe should not occur with FM 2017 (in my test,
everything was ok).
Also, the quotes should be handled in way that they will be
formatted with the Chinese font (not the Latin font).
Best regards -- Tino H. Haida, Berlin
Rick Quatro:
Hi Framers,
I have a structured FrameMaker 2017 document that has been
translated
to Simplified Chinese. Some of the cross-reference formats have
double
quotes in them, like
See "<$paratext>" on page <$pagenum>.
The text has been translated but the quotes and building blocks are
still there. The problem is that with the Chinese there are
sometimes line breaks after the open quote and before the close
quote, depending on where the cross-reference falls on the line. For
example, the close quote in the text below is on the second line by
itself instead of bring the whole quoted text down with it.
??????????? 97 ?? " ????
"
The same thing happens if an open quote falls as the end of the
line; it stays there and the rest of the quoted text moves to the
next line. Is there a way to prevent these line breaks? Thank you
very much.
Rick
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
[14]rick at frameexpert.com
585-366-4017
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