[Framers] Flare

[Rick Quatro]

Flare is definitely a structured authoring tool. It's underlying enforced
structure is XHTML.

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From: Framers <framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro.com at lists.frameusers.com> On
Behalf Of Eichelberger, Mark (King of Prussia)
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Flare

I guess it depends on what you describe as structured authoring.   Based on
my understanding of structured authoring per the DITA style guide,
structured authoring is "a standardized, methodological approach to content
creation incorporating systematic labelling, modular, topic-based
architecture, constrained writing environments, and the separation of
content and form".   I do not consider myself an expert in this area, but
based on that description, I believe Flare falls into that category.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Framers
<framers-bounces+mark.eichelberger=fiserv.com at lists.frameusers.com> On
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Flare

Flare isn't structured. The topic source is XHTML.

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Eichelberger, Mark (King of Prussia)
<Mark.Eichelberger at fiserv.com> wrote:
> As others have mentioned, it depends on your experience.  We were using
unstructured Frame, so going from that to structured, topic-based authoring
was a bit of a jump, let alone learning a new application too.  I am sure if
you were already working with structured authoring, CSS, etc., you could
adapt to Flare quickly.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shmuel Wolfson <shmuelw1 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 12:19 PM
> To: Eichelberger, Mark (King of Prussia) 
> <Mark.Eichelberger at fiserv.com>; Framers - frameusers.com 
> <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Flare
>
> Does it have a steeper learning curve than Frame?
>
>
> On 26-Jun-18 6:51 PM, Eichelberger, Mark (King of Prussia) wrote:
>> Rick,
>> I still consider myself a bit of a novice in Flare since, in my opinion,
it has a steep learning curve.  But Madcap offers plenty of videos and free
webinars on the basics of the software and my associates have shared many
helpful tips and suggestions, so we all have gotten through the migration
relatively painless.  We have had some issues with Madcap support,
specifically when we ran into connectivity issues using its source control
option to integrate with Microsoft Team Foundation Server.  They seemed to
be very hesitant to get involved thinking it was an MS issue and not a Flare
issue.  We were left to handle most of these source control issues with our
companies' TFS administrators and developers.   But that has been the only
blip in what has otherwise been very good support.  Their reps gets back to
us with reported issues within a few  hours (our support plan provides 24
hour email support as opposed to phone support)  and they are usually very
responsive and helpf
 ul in is
 sue resolution.  Overall, I am very pleased with the application.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Framers
>> <framers-bounces+mark.eichelberger=fiserv.com at lists.frameusers.com>
>> On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:25 AM
>> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
>> <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Now that you are a couple of years into it, it would be good to hear what
your satisfaction is with Flare versus FrameMaker. Thanks.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> Rick Quatro
>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>> rick at frameexpert.com
>> 585-729-6746 NEW!
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Framers
>> <framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro.com at lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Eichelberger, Mark (King of Prussia)
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:55 AM
>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
>> <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing
>>
>> All of these posts regarding Adobe's poor support/abandonment of FM are
one of the reasons why my company decided to focus on another tool and
migrate away from FM.  All of the technical publications staff (including
me) are now using Madcap Flare and we have just completed a 2 year migration
of all FM documents into Flare.   It was a bit sad to say goodbye to FM, but
the handwriting was on the wall.
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