[Framers] Table footnotes
Jayaprakash Gnanamurthy
prakash.gnanamurthy at gmail.com
Thu Nov 29 19:02:05 PST 2018
Click on the row which has to be moved to the next page. Right-click >
Table > Row format > Choose from pulldown menu Start Row: *Top of page*
This option can be used to move a particular row to the top of next
page/column/etc., based on the selection.
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> 1. FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility (Marek, James)
> 2. Table footnotes (Bragg, Judy - Xylem)
> 3. Re: FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility (Rick Quatro)
> 4. Re: Table footnotes (Lin Sims)
> 5. File storage best practice (Doug)
> 6. Re: File storage best practice (David Artman)
> 7. Re: File storage best practice (Lin Sims)
> 8. Re: File storage best practice (William Saylor)
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> From: "Marek, James" <jim.marek.ext at siemens.com>
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> Subject: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility
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> After 5 years of using Word, I get to use FrameMaker again! My colleagues
> are using FM 11, but the IT folks just gave me a link and license for FM
> 14. Can I save my work (FM 14) in .fm and .book files that my colleagues
> can use (FM 11)?
>
> Regards,
> Jim Marek
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> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:46:36 +0000
> From: "Bragg, Judy - Xylem" <judy at hypack.com>
> To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: [Framers] Table footnotes
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> I'm working in unstructured Tech. Comm. Suite 2015, and I have come across
> a couple of problems with table footnotes. I hope someone out there has a
> way around them.
>
> In FM, Table Footnote rolls to the next page:
> I have one instance where "the stars have aligned" and the table happens
> to end right at the bottom of the page, then the table footnotes appear at
> the top of the next. I'd really prefer that at least 1 row of the table
> roll to the next page so the footnotes aren't orphaned.
>
> I thought it might have to do with the fact that this table is in a text
> inset, but if I go to the source document where the inset is and shorten
> the text flow to beneath the table, the footnotes roll as orphans there too.
>
> The Table Footnote paragraph style is set to Keep With Previous.
> Changing table body styles to Keep With the Next would cause other, more
> frequent problems.
> Other ideas?
>
> Links to Table Footnotes:
> In FM, I have a table where 3 cells should reference the same footnote.
> I inserted a footnote in the table at the first instance, then manually
> made a superscript letter coinciding to that footnote in the other 2 cells
> and hyperlinked them to the table footnote.
>
> It works in FM, but when I port over to RoboHelp for the CHM files,
> instead of the manual hyperlinks in those 2 cells, the whole content of the
> footnote appears after the cell body text! For the moment, I've just
> removed the hyperlinks, but I'm curious why my method isn't working and if
> there's another way.
>
> Judy Bragg
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers <framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro.com at lists.frameusers.com>
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> Behalf Of Marek, James
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 4:34 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility
>
> After 5 years of using Word, I get to use FrameMaker again! My colleagues
> are using FM 11, but the IT folks just gave me a link and license for FM
> 14.
> Can I save my work (FM 14) in .fm and .book files that my colleagues can
> use
> (FM 11)?
>
> Regards,
> Jim Marek
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> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 08:13:49 -0500
> From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table footnotes
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> You could try increasing the row height slightly for that table so that a
> row or two rolls to the next page. I don't think using the Keep with Next
> will do what you're looking for, anyway, since it affects the table rows,
> not the footnotes.
>
> Truthfully, I've never been entirely happy with how Frame handles
> footnotes, particularly ones for tables. It's one of the few times where I
> think Word handles it better, which means it's one of the few things Word
> does that I agree with. ;-)
>
> I don't port to any Help formats, so I've no idea why it's pulling the text
> of the footnote. Generally speaking, though, if you want to have multiple
> references to the same footnote, best practise is to use the
> cross-reference function, not manually typing and adding a hyperlink. This
> has the added benefit that if your footnote numbering changes, the xref
> automatically updates on your next regen of the book file.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:25 PM Bragg, Judy - Xylem <judy at hypack.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm working in unstructured Tech. Comm. Suite 2015, and I have come
> across
> > a couple of problems with table footnotes. I hope someone out there has a
> > way around them.
> >
> > In FM, Table Footnote rolls to the next page:
> > I have one instance where "the stars have aligned" and the table happens
> > to end right at the bottom of the page, then the table footnotes appear
> at
> > the top of the next. I'd really prefer that at least 1 row of the table
> > roll to the next page so the footnotes aren't orphaned.
> >
> > I thought it might have to do with the fact that this table is in a text
> > inset, but if I go to the source document where the inset is and shorten
> > the text flow to beneath the table, the footnotes roll as orphans there
> too.
> >
> > The Table Footnote paragraph style is set to Keep With Previous.
> > Changing table body styles to Keep With the Next would cause other, more
> > frequent problems.
> > Other ideas?
> >
> > Links to Table Footnotes:
> > In FM, I have a table where 3 cells should reference the same footnote.
> > I inserted a footnote in the table at the first instance, then manually
> > made a superscript letter coinciding to that footnote in the other 2
> cells
> > and hyperlinked them to the table footnote.
> >
> > It works in FM, but when I port over to RoboHelp for the CHM files,
> > instead of the manual hyperlinks in those 2 cells, the whole content of
> the
> > footnote appears after the cell body text! For the moment, I've just
> > removed the hyperlinks, but I'm curious why my method isn't working and
> if
> > there's another way.
> >
> > Judy Bragg
> > Technical Writer/QC
> > HYPACK - A Xylem Brand
> > 56 Bradley St.
> > Middletown, CT 06457
> > O: +1.860.635.1500
> > Judy.bragg at xyleminc.com<mailto:Judy.bragg at xyleminc.com>
> > www.hypack.com<http://www.hypack.com/>
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> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:25:51 -0500
> From: Doug <dbailey4117 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Framers] File storage best practice
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> I'm facing the challenge of organizing the file structure of dozens of
> documents and their respective imported graphics. What's are the best
> practices in this regard? I'm inclined to maintain an Images folder with
> separate sub-folders for each document's graphics, and another sub-folder
> for graphics that are common to multiple documents.
>
> Where I worked before we stored images in a sub-folder below the document's
> FM folder, but I'm leaning away from that approach since it complicates
> things when you are scanning images outside of Frame. And other reasons,
> of course.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug
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> From: David Artman <David at DavidArtman.com>
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> All in one folder, period. Modern OSs have great search, sort, and
> filter controls in their file managers; and it makes packaging for
> version archiving simple.
> My 2?
> David
> [DCA:d.a.d.]
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> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 15:18:26 -0500
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> At my former job, we assigned all graphics a number and everything got
> dumped in a single folder. A spreadsheet kept track of the name of the
> graphic, which was usually just the caption. Finding a graphic was very
> easy if we had the number, and only a little less easy if we had a keyword
> or two we could home in on.
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 2:57 PM David Artman <David at davidartman.com>
> wrote:
>
> > All in one folder, period. Modern OSs have great search, sort, and
> > filter controls in their file managers; and it makes packaging for
> > version archiving simple.
> > My 2?
> > David
> > [DCA:d.a.d.]
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> I have to concur with the suggestions to keep everything associated with a
> project / book in one folder - even though it seemed counterintuitive to
> organizing by subfolder. I have a 12 chapter textbook with 150 figures and
> tried segregating the graphics into a separate subfolder and ensuring the
> linking path was correct. But, having to move across systems - and
> generating FM pdf book output as well as WebWorks for epub and HTML5 book
> output - convinced me that one folder works best. But, without an SVN type
> repository I did have to move older chapters to a separate folder (if I
> needed to save versions) and could keep the master folder with everything
> being used in the project.
> Bill
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> On Behalf Of Lin Sims
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> To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] File storage best practice
>
> At my former job, we assigned all graphics a number and everything got
> dumped in a single folder. A spreadsheet kept track of the name of the
> graphic, which was usually just the caption. Finding a graphic was very
> easy if we had the number, and only a little less easy if we had a keyword
> or two we could home in on.
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 2:57 PM David Artman <David at davidartman.com>
> wrote:
>
> > All in one folder, period. Modern OSs have great search, sort, and
> > filter controls in their file managers; and it makes packaging for
> > version archiving simple.
> > My 2?
> > David
> > [DCA:d.a.d.]
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