[Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility property names for the various binary doc types that start with
Lin Sims
ljsims.ml at gmail.com
Fri Nov 30 07:49:36 PST 2018
If Adobe maintains its pattern, then saving to FM12 would use
Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary120 and FM13 would be
Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary130.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 10:36 AM Craig Ede <craigede at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I just looked this up in the pdf at
> https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/pdfs/framemaker_scripting.pdf
>
> There are a number of Properties listed that start with
> Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary60 (for FM6) and go to
> Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary110 (for FM11). The value used with each of these
> properties changes as listed in the table (pp121-122) and that results in
> saving a binary file of that version. I expect there are also values
> Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary for the newer version that have not yet made it
> into this Aug. 2018 release of the documentation.
>
> Craig
> ________________________________
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> on behalf of Craig Ede <craigede at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:17 AM
> To: Jayaprakash Gnanamurthy; An email list for people using Adobe
> FrameMaker software.
> Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility
>
> Not true, as Rick and Lin's postings indicate. Extendscript allows saving
> to a number of previous formats. Extendscript only functions in versions
> FM10 and up, but, if memory serves (a big caveat), you can save back to at
> least v7.1. Of course, the use of any new features will be lost when doing
> that, so use the same template as the folks using your previous version to
> avoid that.
>
> Craig
> ________________________________
> From: Framers <framers-bounces+craigede=hotmail.com at lists.frameusers.com>
> on behalf of Jayaprakash Gnanamurthy <prakash.gnanamurthy at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 8:54 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility
>
> FrameMaker only allows doing a save as to one previous version (R-1).
> Example: If using FM 14, the files can only be saved as to the FM 13
> version.
>
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> > 1. FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility (Marek, James)
> > 2. Table footnotes (Bragg, Judy - Xylem)
> > 3. Re: FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility (Rick Quatro)
> > 4. Re: Table footnotes (Lin Sims)
> > 5. File storage best practice (Doug)
> > 6. Re: File storage best practice (David Artman)
> > 7. Re: File storage best practice (Lin Sims)
> > 8. Re: File storage best practice (William Saylor)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:34:19 +0000
> > From: "Marek, James" <jim.marek.ext at siemens.com>
> > To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility
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> > After 5 years of using Word, I get to use FrameMaker again! My colleagues
> > are using FM 11, but the IT folks just gave me a link and license for FM
> > 14. Can I save my work (FM 14) in .fm and .book files that my colleagues
> > can use (FM 11)?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jim Marek
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:46:36 +0000
> > From: "Bragg, Judy - Xylem" <judy at hypack.com>
> > To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: [Framers] Table footnotes
> > Message-ID:
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> > I'm working in unstructured Tech. Comm. Suite 2015, and I have come
> across
> > a couple of problems with table footnotes. I hope someone out there has a
> > way around them.
> >
> > In FM, Table Footnote rolls to the next page:
> > I have one instance where "the stars have aligned" and the table happens
> > to end right at the bottom of the page, then the table footnotes appear
> at
> > the top of the next. I'd really prefer that at least 1 row of the table
> > roll to the next page so the footnotes aren't orphaned.
> >
> > I thought it might have to do with the fact that this table is in a text
> > inset, but if I go to the source document where the inset is and shorten
> > the text flow to beneath the table, the footnotes roll as orphans there
> too.
> >
> > The Table Footnote paragraph style is set to Keep With Previous.
> > Changing table body styles to Keep With the Next would cause other, more
> > frequent problems.
> > Other ideas?
> >
> > Links to Table Footnotes:
> > In FM, I have a table where 3 cells should reference the same footnote.
> > I inserted a footnote in the table at the first instance, then manually
> > made a superscript letter coinciding to that footnote in the other 2
> cells
> > and hyperlinked them to the table footnote.
> >
> > It works in FM, but when I port over to RoboHelp for the CHM files,
> > instead of the manual hyperlinks in those 2 cells, the whole content of
> the
> > footnote appears after the cell body text! For the moment, I've just
> > removed the hyperlinks, but I'm curious why my method isn't working and
> if
> > there's another way.
> >
> > Judy Bragg
> > Technical Writer/QC
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> > Middletown, CT 06457
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> > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 16:53:06 -0500
> > From: "Rick Quatro" <rick at rickquatro.com>
> > To: "'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'"
> > <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility
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> > You need my ConvertDocs script. It works great and is cheap!
> >
> > http://www.frameexpert.com/store/
> >
> > Rick Quatro
> > Carmen Publishing Inc.
> > rick at frameexpert.com
> > 585-729-6746
> >
> > Save on energy at quatro.mystream.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Framers <framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro.com at lists.frameusers.com>
> > On
> > Behalf Of Marek, James
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 4:34 PM
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility
> >
> > After 5 years of using Word, I get to use FrameMaker again! My colleagues
> > are using FM 11, but the IT folks just gave me a link and license for FM
> > 14.
> > Can I save my work (FM 14) in .fm and .book files that my colleagues can
> > use
> > (FM 11)?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jim Marek
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 08:13:49 -0500
> > From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
> > To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Table footnotes
> > Message-ID:
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> > You could try increasing the row height slightly for that table so that a
> > row or two rolls to the next page. I don't think using the Keep with Next
> > will do what you're looking for, anyway, since it affects the table rows,
> > not the footnotes.
> >
> > Truthfully, I've never been entirely happy with how Frame handles
> > footnotes, particularly ones for tables. It's one of the few times where
> I
> > think Word handles it better, which means it's one of the few things Word
> > does that I agree with. ;-)
> >
> > I don't port to any Help formats, so I've no idea why it's pulling the
> text
> > of the footnote. Generally speaking, though, if you want to have multiple
> > references to the same footnote, best practise is to use the
> > cross-reference function, not manually typing and adding a hyperlink.
> This
> > has the added benefit that if your footnote numbering changes, the xref
> > automatically updates on your next regen of the book file.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:25 PM Bragg, Judy - Xylem <judy at hypack.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm working in unstructured Tech. Comm. Suite 2015, and I have come
> > across
> > > a couple of problems with table footnotes. I hope someone out there
> has a
> > > way around them.
> > >
> > > In FM, Table Footnote rolls to the next page:
> > > I have one instance where "the stars have aligned" and the table
> happens
> > > to end right at the bottom of the page, then the table footnotes appear
> > at
> > > the top of the next. I'd really prefer that at least 1 row of the
> table
> > > roll to the next page so the footnotes aren't orphaned.
> > >
> > > I thought it might have to do with the fact that this table is in a
> text
> > > inset, but if I go to the source document where the inset is and
> shorten
> > > the text flow to beneath the table, the footnotes roll as orphans there
> > too.
> > >
> > > The Table Footnote paragraph style is set to Keep With Previous.
> > > Changing table body styles to Keep With the Next would cause other,
> more
> > > frequent problems.
> > > Other ideas?
> > >
> > > Links to Table Footnotes:
> > > In FM, I have a table where 3 cells should reference the same
> footnote.
> > > I inserted a footnote in the table at the first instance, then manually
> > > made a superscript letter coinciding to that footnote in the other 2
> > cells
> > > and hyperlinked them to the table footnote.
> > >
> > > It works in FM, but when I port over to RoboHelp for the CHM files,
> > > instead of the manual hyperlinks in those 2 cells, the whole content of
> > the
> > > footnote appears after the cell body text! For the moment, I've just
> > > removed the hyperlinks, but I'm curious why my method isn't working and
> > if
> > > there's another way.
> > >
> > > Judy Bragg
> > > Technical Writer/QC
> > > HYPACK - A Xylem Brand
> > > 56 Bradley St.
> > > Middletown, CT 06457
> > > O: +1.860.635.1500
> > > Judy.bragg at xyleminc.com<mailto:Judy.bragg at xyleminc.com>
> > > www.hypack.com<http://www.hypack.com/>
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:25:51 -0500
> > From: Doug <dbailey4117 at gmail.com>
> > To: Framers <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: [Framers] File storage best practice
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > I'm facing the challenge of organizing the file structure of dozens of
> > documents and their respective imported graphics. What's are the best
> > practices in this regard? I'm inclined to maintain an Images folder with
> > separate sub-folders for each document's graphics, and another sub-folder
> > for graphics that are common to multiple documents.
> >
> > Where I worked before we stored images in a sub-folder below the
> document's
> > FM folder, but I'm leaning away from that approach since it complicates
> > things when you are scanning images outside of Frame. And other reasons,
> > of course.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 14:57:42 -0500
> > From: David Artman <David at DavidArtman.com>
> > To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
> > <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] File storage best practice
> > Message-ID: <a9d6c981-8111-41e8-b3b1-cbab3fcdde00 at email.android.com>
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> >
> > All in one folder, period. Modern OSs have great search, sort, and
> > filter controls in their file managers; and it makes packaging for
> > version archiving simple.
> > My 2?
> > David
> > [DCA:d.a.d.]
> >
> >
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> > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 15:18:26 -0500
> > From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
> > To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] File storage best practice
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> >
> > At my former job, we assigned all graphics a number and everything got
> > dumped in a single folder. A spreadsheet kept track of the name of the
> > graphic, which was usually just the caption. Finding a graphic was very
> > easy if we had the number, and only a little less easy if we had a
> keyword
> > or two we could home in on.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 2:57 PM David Artman <David at davidartman.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > All in one folder, period. Modern OSs have great search, sort, and
> > > filter controls in their file managers; and it makes packaging for
> > > version archiving simple.
> > > My 2?
> > > David
> > > [DCA:d.a.d.]
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> > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:38:29 -0700
> > From: "William Saylor" <wsaylor at earthlink.net>
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> > Subject: Re: [Framers] File storage best practice
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> > I have to concur with the suggestions to keep everything associated with
> a
> > project / book in one folder - even though it seemed counterintuitive to
> > organizing by subfolder. I have a 12 chapter textbook with 150 figures
> and
> > tried segregating the graphics into a separate subfolder and ensuring the
> > linking path was correct. But, having to move across systems - and
> > generating FM pdf book output as well as WebWorks for epub and HTML5 book
> > output - convinced me that one folder works best. But, without an SVN
> type
> > repository I did have to move older chapters to a separate folder (if I
> > needed to save versions) and could keep the master folder with everything
> > being used in the project.
> > Bill
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Framers <framers-bounces+wsaylor=
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> > On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 1:18 PM
> > To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] File storage best practice
> >
> > At my former job, we assigned all graphics a number and everything got
> > dumped in a single folder. A spreadsheet kept track of the name of the
> > graphic, which was usually just the caption. Finding a graphic was very
> > easy if we had the number, and only a little less easy if we had a
> keyword
> > or two we could home in on.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 2:57 PM David Artman <David at davidartman.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > All in one folder, period. Modern OSs have great search, sort, and
> > > filter controls in their file managers; and it makes packaging for
> > > version archiving simple.
> > > My 2?
> > > David
> > > [DCA:d.a.d.]
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