[Framers] File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
Lin Sims
ljsims.ml at gmail.com
Tue Oct 16 17:48:54 PDT 2018
Rick found the information in the MIF file. I was (naturally) looking for
the wrong text.
The info wanted is here (and yes I substituted generic information):
<PDFDocInfo
<Key 'Author'>
<Value 'Company Name'>
<Key 'Title'>
<Value 'Book Title'>
> # end of PDFDocInfo
All I have to do is find that section in the MIF files and fix it, and none
of our new documents will have a title in them. The older ones, obviously,
were updated grumpily by me before generating the PDFs. :D
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:29 PM Carole McCormick <
carolemccormick at sunnuclear.com> wrote:
> Here is the process I have used in the past to remove title information
> from a FrameMaker document.
> Procedure to remove File Info from book files - this information is
> propagated in new files when the template is used and cannot be deleted.
> Process for removing:
> 1.Begin by making a backup of all of the files.
> 2.Open a file (I will use Preface as an example). Click File > File Info.
> Remove any "File Info" text.
> 3.Open a new blank document.
> 4.Import formats from Preface into blank document -- ALL except for
> Document Properties.
> 5.Import file (Preface) into blank document - File > Import > File, select
> "Copy into document" at the bottom of the screen, click Import and in the
> dialog box that opens, select "Retain Source Formatting".
> 6.Close the original Preface file.
> 7.Save the "blank" document as Preface.
> 8.Select Format > Page Layout > Column Layout. In the Column Layout
> dialog box, select the checkbox for Room for Sideheads and then click
> Update Entire Flow.
> 9.Close the file and reopen - the File Info should be gone.
>
> I haven't used this in some time, but hope that it helps.
>
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> 1. Re: Structured XML 'title' element (cuc tu)
> 2. Re: ePub (Doug)
> 3. Equations (Doug)
> 4. File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
> 5. Re: File Info > Title information problem (Jeff Coatsworth)
> 6. Re: File Info > Title information problem (John Sgammato)
> 7. Re: File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
> 8. Re: File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:02:59 +0000
> From: cuc tu <cuc2u at hotmail.com>
> To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Structured XML 'title' element
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> Hi Rick,
>
>
> I suspect a table is involved because of the error message, but all I
> notice in the XML and structure view is that the 'title' element tags are
> removed, and its text is then in the 'first_aid' element, which is not
> valid. In Frame, I can select this title text and then wrap it in the
> 'title' element, and that will validate. Frame will save the xml file with
> the 'title' element intact, but when the xml is then reopened, the title
> element is removed again.
>
>
> Related to your question, actual 'table' elements are converted to 'Table'
> elements and then 'Row' elements are inserted. Those elements are undefined
> and appear elsewhere. The above just seemed to be an easier issue to get
> through as there are still several...
>
>
> I'm fairly certain I have valid xml for the dtd, I just have problems with
> my structured application and am not sure where to look. I built the edd
> from a supplied dtd and imported the elements into a template file, but I
> do not map any formatting in the edd (it was simply built from the dtd).
> Then the rw rules are just from Adobe's structured app reference manual.
>
>
> I think there is something making Frame expect the 'title' element in a
> table and there is a connection to Frame's Table Title, but I don't see
> where that is defined. I suspect something is missing from my rw-rules
> file, which looks as such:
>
>
>
> fm version is "12.0";
> /*
> * Include all ISO entity mapping rules.
> */
> #include "isoall.rw"
>
>
> element "xref" {
> is fm cross reference element "Xref";
> attribute "formatprop" is fm property cross-reference format; }
>
>
> element "table" {
> is fm table element "Table";
> attribute "frame"
> {
> is fm property table border ruling;
> value "top" is fm property value top;
> value "bottom" is fm property value bottom; value "topbot" is fm property
> value top and bottom; value "all" is fm property value all; value "sides"
> is fm property value sides; value "none" is fm property value none; }
> attribute "colsep" is fm property column ruling; attribute "rowsep" is fm
> property row ruling; attribute "numcols" is fm property columns; attribute
> "colwidths" is fm property column widths; }
>
>
> element "tablehead" {
> is fm table heading element "TableHead"; } element "tablebody" { is fm
> table body element "TableBody"; } element "row" { is fm table row element
> "Row"; } element "cell" { is fm table cell element "Cell"; }
>
> element "graphic" {
> is fm graphic element "Graphic";
> writer anchored frame {
> notation is "CGM";
> export to file "$(docname).cgm";
> }
> }
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> C2
>
> ---------------------
>
>
>
> Hi C2,
>
> Is the <first_aid> element being converted to a FrameMaker table?
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> rick at frameexpert.com
> 585-729-6746 NEW!
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:15:59 -0400
> From: Doug <dbailey4117 at gmail.com>
> To: Framers <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] ePub
> Message-ID:
> <CANLqyK1-VyUDEDUWDKX9Y_2-tdHpgLO1W=rAfVOOXg6Dkr=
> New at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Thanks everyone. I clicked the Edit option on the Publish window and
> figured out how to add borders to my images...it works perfectly in ePub
> mode. I'll have to remove the borders from my FM documents and just use
> those instead. Probably will end up using conditional text to use my
> original image borders to show up in our PDFs.
>
> Can anyone suggest how to change the color of hotlinks? My cross-refs
> display in the normal blue when they're published, but I'm told to make
> them a different shade.
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 2:38 PM Scott Prentice <sp14 at leximation.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Doug...
> >
> > I assume you're using the EPUB export in FM? The FM version will
> > affect the output significantly, newer versions much better than
> > older. As Rick points out, the formatting is controlled by CSS. There
> > are many reasons that formatting in your source may now end up as
> > expected in the EPUB. I haven't looked at the EPUB output from FM 2019
> > yet, but I think it's the same as it was in FM 2017 (I hear that RH
> > 2019 has a new engine though .. need to test that).
> >
> > One of the big problems with EPUB output from FM (and most tools), is
> > that the underlying HTML/CSS is not terribly clean. There's likely a
> > lot of hard-coded styling (@style attributes on HTML elements) .. when
> > it should be purely @class attribute driven so it's easier to control.
> > You'll also see differences in the rendering of pages depending on the
> > EPUB reader you're using.
> >
> > You can look at the HTML/CSS markup by extracting the files from
> > within the EPUB. Just change the file extension to ".zip" and use your
> > favorite archive tool. In theory you can make edits and zip it back
> > up, but this may create an invalid EPUB (the order of files in the
> > archive is important, and most archive tools don't let you define that
> > order). If you're serious about EPUB, you should get a copy of Oxygen
> XML Editor.
> > It lets you open EPUBs, make edits and save back to the EPUB (properly).
> > And since it's an XML editor (and EPUBs are mostly XML), it's a really
> > nice tool for making global edits to the files.
> >
> > EPUB can be really cool .. but the tools and readers are lacking in
> > proper support. Keep it simple and you'll have better results. Also
> > tell your end users which readers you "support" so they don't try
> > using some reader that will make the EPUB looks really bad.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > ...scott
> >
> >
> > On 10/15/18 8:22 AM, Doug wrote:
> > > I've been experimenting with publishing to the ePub format. it
> > > looks
> > nice,
> > > but the images in my document lose their borders during the process.
> > I've
> > > managed to make a single image retain its border, but none of the
> others.
> > > Even if I set up another image the same way, the border vanishes
> > > when I publish to ePub.
> > >
> > > Ideas?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Doug
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 07:51:54 -0400
> From: Doug <dbailey4117 at gmail.com>
> To: Framers <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: [Framers] Equations
> Message-ID:
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>
> When I use the Insert > Equations functionality, the result is great for
> PDFs and print. But when I File > Publish > HTML5, the equations are
> treated as images. This is bad because the Publishing process puts borders
> around them like it does around all of the images.
>
> The only way I can think of to fix this is to not set the Publish process
> to not automatically add borders to any images. This means I will have to
> manually edit the CSS to add the 4 border statements for each of the
> images. But at least this way the equations won't have borders, even
> though they'll still be treated as images.
>
> Am I missing a better solution?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:44:35 -0400
> From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
> To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
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>
> Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017
>
> Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File Info? I
> have templates I created and I can't get rid of an old document title from
> this field in the template files. Yes, I update this field when I create a
> new document, but it's a bloody nuisance that it has bad information in it
> and I can't get rid of it.
>
> I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information in
> the MIF files.
>
> --
> Lin Sims
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:49:39 +0000
> From: Jeff Coatsworth <Jeff.Coatsworth at jonasclub.com>
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
> Message-ID: <48931348e448484ea1b75a84085991fc at jonasclub.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> IIRC once you stick something in that File Info screen, you're stuck with
> it forever.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=
> jonasclub.com at lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:45 PM
> To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
>
> Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017
>
> Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File Info? I
> have templates I created and I can't get rid of an old document title from
> this field in the template files. Yes, I update this field when I create a
> new document, but it's a bloody nuisance that it has bad information in it
> and I can't get rid of it.
>
> I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information in
> the MIF files.
>
> --
> Lin Sims
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:52:58 -0400
> From: John Sgammato <john.sgammato at actifio.com>
> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
> <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
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> We update that information all the time. It gets consumed by an
> auto-publication script and used to publish the final PDF to the right
> location.
> We're using FM 2015, unstructured.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:49 PM Jeff Coatsworth <
> Jeff.Coatsworth at jonasclub.com> wrote:
>
> > IIRC once you stick something in that File Info screen, you're stuck
> > with it forever.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=
> > jonasclub.com at lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:45 PM
> > To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
> >
> > Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017
> >
> > Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File
> > Info? I have templates I created and I can't get rid of an old
> > document title from this field in the template files. Yes, I update
> > this field when I create a new document, but it's a bloody nuisance
> > that it has bad information in it and I can't get rid of it.
> >
> > I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information
> > in the MIF files.
> >
> > --
> > Lin Sims
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:55:27 -0400
> From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
> To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
> Message-ID:
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> Well. That's STUPID.
>
> Also frustrating. Whose bright idea was that?
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:49 PM Jeff Coatsworth <
> Jeff.Coatsworth at jonasclub.com> wrote:
>
> > IIRC once you stick something in that File Info screen, you're stuck
> > with it forever.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=
> > jonasclub.com at lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:45 PM
> > To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
> >
> > Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017
> >
> > Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File
> > Info? I have templates I created and I can't get rid of an old
> > document title from this field in the template files. Yes, I update
> > this field when I create a new document, but it's a bloody nuisance
> > that it has bad information in it and I can't get rid of it.
> >
> > I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information
> > in the MIF files.
> >
> > --
> > Lin Sims
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:57:24 -0400
> From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
> To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
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> That'd be nice. But we do it all manually: choose the file name, choose
> the location, all the rest. I just don't understand why someone thought
> carrying an old title over to everything ever created once you used that
> field for the first time was a good idea.
>
> It's been a bit of a week. Already. Oy.
>
> Thanks for the information, all, even if it's not what I hoped for.
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:53 PM John Sgammato <john.sgammato at actifio.com>
> wrote:
>
> > We update that information all the time. It gets consumed by an
> > auto-publication script and used to publish the final PDF to the right
> > location.
> > We're using FM 2015, unstructured.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:49 PM Jeff Coatsworth <
> > Jeff.Coatsworth at jonasclub.com> wrote:
> >
> > > IIRC once you stick something in that File Info screen, you're stuck
> > > with it forever.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=
> > > jonasclub.com at lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:45 PM
> > > To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > > Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
> > >
> > > Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017
> > >
> > > Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File
> Info?
> > I
> > > have templates I created and I can't get rid of an old document
> > > title
> > from
> > > this field in the template files. Yes, I update this field when I
> > > create
> > a
> > > new document, but it's a bloody nuisance that it has bad information
> > > in
> > it
> > > and I can't get rid of it.
> > >
> > > I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information
> > > in the MIF files.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lin Sims
> > > _______________________________________________
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