[Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

Mon Feb 11 11:24:55 PST 2019

Adobe provides the ability to use FrameMaker to export to a number of
different formats that are useable by other applications, including export
into Word. It's hardly their responsibility to get other companies to
create import filters for Adobe proprietary formats.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:12 PM <john.x.posada at us.hsbc.com> wrote:

> How many people, based on company policy, have not embraced FM because
> there wasn't a migration path to another vendor so as not to be locked into
> a proprietary platform
>
> When I went the FM way, if I'd known, I would have gone a different way. I
> just assumed.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> us.hsbc.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 2:05 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <
> framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
>
> One thing that might inform the long view is "If it ain't broke...," so
> there may be lots of individuals and small and large companies still
> chugging along with perfectly-operating back versions of FrameMaker on
> well-enough operating Windows-compatible machines or virtual-machine
> emulators, even, can-you-even-think-it...UNIX.
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:57 PM John Posada <jposada99 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This conversation has been an eye-opener. I cannot believe that nobody
> > has come along and offered an application for people who are FM users
> > but want to migrate to another vendor for some reason.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Peter Gold
> > <peter at petergold.photography>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, John:
> > >
> > > My point was that if the company was using InDesign, it would have
> > > to be
> > an
> > > early-enough standalone version that doesn't phone home to Adobe. I
> > > use
> > ID
> > > CS6 standalone/non-subscription.
> > >
> > > Perhaps the question has evolved to what applications are acceptable
> > > on
> > the
> > > corporate network, and which of them do folks on the list think is
> > > the
> > best
> > > one to migrate to, so as to avoid having to slog through this effort
> > going
> > > forward?
> > >
> > > Despite its age, FrameMaker is still a great tool for the task of
> > technical
> > > writing and publishing. However, security issues in the computing
> > > environments where it's used have become serious considerations, so,
> > > to wit:, hence, therefore, and etc.....
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:26 PM <john.x.posada at us.hsbc.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Peter...it's not the process for exporting/converting that's
> > > > the
> > > issue.
> > > > I got all that. I did it all the time to allow my user base to
> > > > make
> > their
> > > > edits.
> > > >
> > > > The issue is installing and licensing the application. It WOULD be
> > > > installed on a standalone...mine. It still needs to validate by
> > > connecting
> > > > to Adobe, and that's a problem.
> > > >
> > > > BTW...all Adobe products do that, so bring ID into the equation
> > > > does nothing.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> > > > us.hsbc.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:20 PM
> > > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <
> > > > framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured
> > > > files
> > > >
> > > > Looks like my earlier response got truncated. Apologies for any
> > > confusion.
> > > >
> > > > Would it be acceptable to install FM on a stand-alone machine,
> > > > save as MIF, and export/convert to formats of apps the corporate
> > > > network
> > > supports,
> > > > then copy these outputs to the network? Or, have that work done by
> > > > a service?
> > > >
> > > > If a non-subscription version of InDesign is used on the corporate
> > > > network, a round-about approach could be to use the  DTP Tools -
> > > > MIF
> > > Filter
> > > > for Adobe InDesign <http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfid>
> > > > to convert MIF files InDesign. Within InDesign's own limits and
> > > > abilities,
> > > the
> > > > conversion retains most, FrameMaker text formatting features and
> > > > specifications, and does its best to emulate page layouts.
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM John Posada <jposada99 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't
> > > > > like FM installed on their network.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are there any other applications that can be installed and open
> > native
> > > > > FM
> > > > > 11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the
> > > > > book paradigm?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > John Posada
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