[Framers] Leading white space for paragraph formats at the beginning of a text flow

Thu Jul 25 08:04:39 PDT 2019

If it's a unique paragraph tag used only at the start of a flow/frame, I've used an empty reference frame above the paragraph (the Advanced page of the Paragraph Designer). It's a more flexible solution than a master page (IMO).

Pat Christenson

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What you describe is the way Frame works. Space above is always ignored for a paragraph that falls at the top of a frame.

The best approach is to add a special master page for the first page of a chapter that has a text frame that starts lower on the page. Inserting blank paragraphs is almost never an optimal solution for vertical spacing issues. The only time I use a paragraph that contains no text is to hold the anchor for an inserted object (e.g. a table, an anchored frame, a text inset).

-FR

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From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail.com at lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of Peter Kelly <peter.kelly at qio.io>

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Subject: [Framers] Leading white space for paragraph formats at the beginning of a text flow

Hi everyone,

I've come across this strange behavior of Frame where if I insert a paragraph at the beginning of a text flow, Space Before does not seem to be taken into account. I have to use empty carriage returns to create white space before a major heading at the beginning of a flow, for example. Am I missing something? As always grateful for any help received.

Best,

Peter

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