[Framers] Create a separate ToC for each text flow?

Lin Sims ljsims.ml at gmail.com
Mon May 20 08:47:07 PDT 2019


Hey Craig,

Assuming I understood this correctly, I don't think this is possible. As
far as I know, you can only have one TOC reference page, and there's no way
to specify which text flow it goes into. Be interesting to find out if I'm
wrong on that, though, as I can see it being useful.

Yves, let us know what you try out and how it works, would you please?

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 3:36 PM Craig Ede <craigede at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Yves,
>
> I was thinking of something similar to what Lin describes, but I don't
> have time to check it and didn't want to lead you down a wrong path.
> However, once you create the TOC file as an autogenerated file, it might be
> possible to create the two text flows in that file, one for each language.
> The page flows and formatting tags on the reference page for the TOC would
> have to be divided as well with the correct tags to use for formatting on
> the appropriate side. All the flow names have to be named the same for each
> of the 'views' (that is, on both the TOC reference and master pages). I
> don't know for sure, but it just might work, and that would let you just
> generate the file, no muss, no fuss.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Craig
>
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Create a separate ToC for each text flow?
>
> Could you use two different paragraph tags for each heading level, one for
> Dutch and one for French? Perhaps distinguished by -D and -Fr. Then you
> could generate separate TOCs easily enough from the same file, but off the
> top of my head I can't figure out how to combine the two different TOCs
> into the same generated file.
>
> Oh! Could you create a second file that has two separate text frames as
> parallel columns, then use insets to have the French TOC in one column and
> the Dutch in the other? Then all you'd have to do is exclude the generated
> files from the doc when creating your output ...
>
> (NB: I have not tested this. No idea if it would work. But it sounds
> possible.)
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 8:14 AM Yves Barbion <yves.barbion at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Framers
> >
> > I've got this nice challenge:
> >
> > I've got a big FrameMaker book in which each chapter has 2 separate text
> > flows: one for Dutch text and one for French. The Dutch and French text
> > appears side by side on each page.
> >
> > I want to create a table of contents which has the same: a Dutch text
> flow
> > on the left and a French text flow on the right.
> >
> > I don't see a "standard" way of doing this in Fm. When I generate a ToC,
> I
> > get the Dutch and French text mixed together in a single flow:
> >
> > Dutch heading.... page 1
> > French heading.... page 1
> > Dutch heading.... page 2
> > French heading.... page 2
> >
> > etc.
> >
> > My current workaround is kinda complicated:
> >
> >    1. Create 3 versions of the book, one bilingual (master) version, a
> >    French version and a Dutch version.
> >    2. Remove all French text from the Dutch book and vice versa.
> >    3. Generate a ToC in the French version.
> >    4. Generate a ToC in the Dutch version.
> >    5. In the bilingual version, import the Dutch ToC in the Dutch text
> flow
> >    of the "fake ToC" and import the French ToC in the French text flow.
> >
> > It works, but it's too complicated and will take too much time when
> updates
> > occur.
> >
> > Any better ideas? Can an ExtendScript do this?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Yves Barbion
> > www.flowtime.be<http://www.flowtime.be>
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