[Framers] weird bug - Variable at start of paragraph sometimes vanishes

tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com
Tue Nov 12 14:42:27 PST 2019


Well, that's a serious bummer, but I knew it was a long shot. . . GRR.  . . 

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

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Subject: Re: [Framers] weird bug - Variable at start of paragraph sometimes
vanishes

Thanks Tammy,
That didn't work. There's a lot going on in this doc - I think it will be
faster to just push through the 700pp and fix it manually rather than waste
a lot of time on a fix that may not exist.

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 3:25 PM <tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Weird indeed, but what is even weirder is that I encountered this 
> problem myself a couple of months ago when I was using ePub to convert 
> my FM source to HTML5. It was one flippin' variable out of many that I  
> had in the source files and it also involved conditional text. I know 
> this is really, really pulling at straws, but a couple of plug-ins 
> that I was using and therefore, affecting the Framemaker FDK, appeared 
> to be the issue. (It was a head-banging, feet-stomping, gut-wailing  
> investigation), but this was what appeared to work:
>
> The solution is to open each FM document that is generating with 
> missing variables and do the following:
> - From the 'Show/Hide Conditional Text' tab, select the 'Show All' 
> radio button (make sure to have the show condition indicators 
> selected) and then select 'Apply'.
> - confirm that the conditional text settings are as expected and where 
> there are problems fix.
> -  From the 'Show/Hide Conditional Text' tab, select the 'Show As Per 
> Condition" radio button (make sure to have the show condition 
> indicators deselected), set the conditions accordingly, and then 
> select 'Apply'. Do this for both conditons.
> - Save the FrameMaker file.
>
> All my FrameMaker files were stable after that.
>
> And short of assuming that I somehow had pleased the previously 
> pissed-off FrameMaker gods, I have no other explanation as to why this 
> worked (I had my rationale for it at the time), but it did.
>
> I feel your pain.
>
> TVB
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com 
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers
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> On Behalf Of John Sgammato
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 12:16 PM
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> Subject: [Framers] weird bug - Variable at start of paragraph 
> sometimes vanishes
>
> I've never seen this before; it looks like a bug.
> FM2015, unstructured.
> I have a big book with many variables and some conditions. In many 
> (but not
> all) cases, a variable that starts a paragraph is present but invisible.
> Specifically,
> *Note: AGM only.*
> AGM is the variable. In some places I see *Note AGM only.* and in many 
> places I see *Note  only.* The latter still have the variable marker 
> in place and selectable, and when I select it, the invisible marker is 
> still assigned to the variable with the value AGM.
> If I replace the variable, then it appears and it seems to stay, but I 
> don't know why it vanished in the first place, how to reproduce it, or 
> how to make it never happen again.
> A clue: The doc originally had many many AGM only notes as text. Then 
> we started rebranding the product while keeping our own name as well, 
> publishing "blue" and "orange" versions of the doc. For the orange 
> version, the variable = AGM, and for the blue doc it's IVGM. To set 
> the variable throughout the doc, I replaced the text AGM with the 
> variable, then copied the variable and did a Find/Replace By Pasting (not
a text Find/Replace).
> That got the variable into place everywhere. I am not sure that's a 
> factor, because I think there are too many notes that still show the 
> variable to account for them all having been manual operations (and 
> thus the bu came from the automated F/R step).
> Has anyone seen this?
> Is there any solution other than manually replacing each invisible 
> variable?
>
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