[Framers] XML Output: < = < entity but > = >
cuc tu
cuc2u at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 11 14:12:27 PDT 2019
Hi All,
Is this a bug in FM12? The > character is not translating to the > entity.
Thanks
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1. Still stuck with CGM images (cuc tu)
2. Re: Read-write rules for graphics (Roger Shuttleworth)
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Subject: [Framers] Still stuck with CGM images
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Howdy Framers,
Can FrameMaker produce vector CGM images? I mostly have external vector images in ai and any format Illustrator can create and Frame seems to rasterize everything to a very low resolution when saving to XML.
Also, I read from the dev guide:
"For example, assume you have an instance of the Graph graphic element that contains graphics
you created with FrameMaker?s graphics tools. By default, the software creates the following
markup entity for it:
<!ENTITY graph1 SYSTEM "graph1.cgm" NDATA cgm>
Also, the entity attribute of the graphic element has a value of graph1 to correspond with the
above entity."
I tried this by drawing a simple shape and also just "drawing" a text line. The resulting files were mif. I don't know where I might have changed the default, but is there something in the R/W rules that need to be entered? I have defined all graphic elements to be converted to CGM. Where does mif fit into the xml specification?
If this is not a capability that Frame has, is there an easy way around this issue? My client is recommending isodraw or auto-trol. I've tried numerous online converters and a few trial versions to convert what I have, and the result is either the same or worse, such as random lines and fills. The suggested solution are likely to be both cost prohibitive and have too steep a learning curve.
Thanks for any advice and for all the help you've given before. I have come a long way because of it.
C2
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:44:29 +0100
From: Roger Shuttleworth <shuttie27 at gmail.com>
To: "Lynne A. Price" <lprice at txstruct.com>, info at heiko-haida.de
Cc: Framers <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Read-write rules for graphics
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Hello Lynne and Tino
Thank you for your replies. My apologies for not getting back to you
sooner. I have been trying some other approaches without much success.
To answer Lynne's first question: No, FM11 is my personal version. The
investigation I am doing is for a charity, so there is little hope of
any cash - and even if there were, FM11 up till now has met my needs,
and I don't really want to learn a whole new version.
Another apology: I misspoke regarding the "href" attribute, which was in
fact a required *string* and not an id.
According to Tino's suggestion, I have tried using a very simple rule:
element "image" {
? is fm graphic element;
? attribute "file" is fm property file;
}
I have a very simple document consisting of a title and a single
paragraph containing some text and an anchored frame at insertion point,
with one referenced graphic. I changed the "href" attribute to Optional
in the EDD, and added no attribute values at all. I get the following XML:
<p><image href = "" height="1.167in" width="1.028in"
graphicname="1778433278"? />This is some text</p>
I have no idea why the XML contains a "graphicname" attribute, since
this does not exist in the FM document or the rules.
If I change the anchored frame to Run into Paragraph, aligned Left, the
XML is identical.
Changing the EDD so that the InitialObjectFormat for <image> is either
an anchored frame or an imported graphic file makes no difference: same XML.
Opening the XML in FM not surprisingly generates an error message in the
console: Error importing graphic for element (image).
Adding a subrule,? attribute "align" is fm property alignment; makes no
difference.
Even more strange: If I manually add an href value and then export XML,
the href value is exported, e.g.:
<image href = "Graphics/think.png" height="1.167in" width="1.028in"
graphicname="2109691528"? />
But when I open this XML in FM, the <image> element is dropped
altogether and the console has a message, "Error importing graphic for
element (image)."
Maybe I'm missing something very obvious...
Roger
P.S. I don't want to take up your time; I'm resigned to fiddling and
researching until I conquer this!
On 09/09/2019 20:50, Lynne A. Price wrote:
> On 9/9/2019 11:15 AM, Roger Shuttleworth wrote:
>> Using FM11.
>
> Roger,
> ?? Have you tried a later version of FM?
>
> ...
> All my images are imported by reference, and the anchored frames
> contain only one image each.
> ...
>
>> 1. The "href" attribute, which is defined in my EDD as arequired id,
>> ?? exports as an empty string. I need it to populate with the path to
>> ?? my referenced graphic. You will note that I have commented out one
>> ?? line of the rules, but it makes no difference. Do I have to specify
>> ?? the "href" value in FM, or should it pick up the filename
>> ?? automatically when exporting?
>
> I'll respond to your other questions after I've had time to do some
> relevant testing, but why do you want the href attribute stored in FM?
> And why do you want it to be a unique ID? How is it declared in the
> DTD? Pathnames contain characters (particularly slashes and possibly
> spaces) that are not permitted in ID attributes in XML. Furthermore, I
> don't know if your documents ever contain multiple copies of the same
> graphic file, but if you use the filename as an ID, you preclude that
> possibility. Structured cross-references do use ID attributes for
> cross-references, but cross-references for images typically refer to
> something like a container that includes a figure number rater than
> the anchored frame itself.
>
> FM should export the filename to the appropriate attribute regardless
> of any value stored in FM. The only reason I can think of for
> importing the filename would be to display it in the FM document as a
> cross-reference to the graphic element. Do you have such a requirement?
>
> ??? --Lynne
>
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