[Framers] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Doug, et. al.

As far as I am concerned, yes! For you, the cost to go from 2017 to 2020 is likely to be quite expensive, since you skipped FM 2019, once FM 2020 is released! For sure, If you are on FM 2015 (or older), you have to essentially get a new license to do an "upgrade". 

As some of you all know, I believed that a time of "no-more-perpetual-licenses" would come to pass ... when Adobe first announced the subscription model!

So, I stopped all FM upgrades as of FM 12. The cost was/is _unreasonably_ expensive if you are _more_ than a version old, essentially forcing a new license purchase.

Plus, I do not choose to use subscription models for any software I get. It may well be fine for many people - so what I believe does not apply to you all, of course! I wish to retain the ability to fire up an old tool - even if not in use currently - and redo work. With a subscription model, if you are not actively using the tool, it is costly ... if everyone thought this way, it would be a significant monthly charge and unacceptable.

Anyway, I migrated all my _new_ documents to LaTeX (works beautifully for _my_ needs - with semi-real-time PDF previews, etc.), and only bring up FM 12 to do simple changes to old documents. 

I have to figure out how to migrate that old FM12 license to a new computer I just got though ... I am not sure how long Adobe will allow me to do this (or if now too!). If not possible, I will revert to an even older version of FM - still have licenses for FM 7.2 for example that does not require activation ... just have to save all my docs in compatible MIF.

For anything likely to need more than a few days of edits to an old FM document, I convert from the PDF to LaTeX - the extra day or so to do that pays off completely.

Again, it is _important_ to emphasize that my specific needs are well-met with LaTeX, but that this may not be true for you all, of course! YMMV.

Also, I have found excellent alternatives to all the Adobe products I was using, with one exception that I have to find the time to check out - a replacement for Acrobat Pro (will look at FlexiPDF from SoftMaker soon - just bought a copy). Not because I dislike Acrobat Pro per se, but because I think it too is heading to a subscription model.

I am only on this list for historical reasons ... 😊 ... began using FM on a Sun 3/50 in 1988 (_way_ prior to the acquisition of Frame Technology) and like to hear about what people are up to.

Regards,

Z

-----Original Message-----
From: Framers <framers-bounces+syed.hosain=aeris.net at lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Doug
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based

We use FM 2017...do we need to be wary of Adobe making us pay them more money in the future?

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:48 AM Simon BUCH <simon.buch at m-ais.com> wrote:

> FYI
>
> Despite what I was told last year:
>
>     "/Customers will still be able to purchase perpetual licenses of all
>     the above-mentioned products through Channel (Adobe authorized
>     resellers) under Transactional Licensing Program (TLP) and
>     Cumulative Licensing Program (CLP) even after 1 July 2019./"
>
> ... it appears that Adobe has made the decision that the purchase of 
> perpetual licenses only applies to Adobe FrameMaker 15 AKA 2019 release.
> As quoted from the Adobe Territory Account Manager:
>
>     "/FrameMaker 2019 will be available in Perpetual format.
>     This mean, internet will not be required to keep the license active.
>     This should be available for limited time."
>     /
>
> and /that//:/
>
>     /"Going forward, all the FrameMaker versions will only be available
>     in Subscription.//
>     //That said, we still can support these licenses in an offline
>     environment./"
>
> But no further information was given.
>
> Currently subscription costs stand at approximately US$30 / GB£30.34 / 
> €UR 36 / AU$45 etc. per month.
>
>
> Regards
> // Simon BUCH
>
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