[Framers] Rendering embedded Visio with shading/pattern fill from FM to PDF problem

[Lin Sims]

Not sure what you're asking. I can say that the same FrameMaker file with
imported by reference SVGs was noticeably smaller than imported by
reference PDFs. No idea why.

The resulting PDF is big no matter which is used, so I customarily optimize
the PDFs, turning off all image compression. The PDF size reduces
considerably.

On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 6:12 PM Peter Gold <peter at petergold.photography>
wrote:

> Lin, does FM recognize that imported reduced file size - by copy or
> reference - PDFs as smaller?
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020, 4:43 PM Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I can tell you that exporting the Visio to PDF works perfectly. The
> export
> > to SVG less so: as long as there are no stencil objects or grouped
> objects,
> > the SVG works. If there are objects added from stencils or if you group
> > anything, you'll find parts of objects moved all over the place. I
> believe
> > the developers have been trying to solve this for a while (I have a bug
> > report and they've contacted me about it), but I don't know yet if
> they've
> > fixed it. PDFs tend to blow up the file size, even when imported by
> > reference, but at least they work!
> >
> > I have a vague memory of trying to open an SVG created by Visio in
> > Illustrator and seeing the same issue. I don't know if that means it's an
> > issue with the Visio export (which would not surprise me, as Microsoft is
> > notorious for "customizing" things so they only work properly in their
> own
> > products) or an issue with import by Adobe products. I do know that the
> SVG
> > created by Visio export displays just fine in any browser I've opened
> them
> > in.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 2:15 PM Simon Buch <Simon.Buch at m-ais.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > The last time I tried using Microsoft Visio OLE objects with
> > > FrameMaker was quite some years ago, and produced poor results while
> > > printing.  It turns out that Microsoft Office can handle OLE objects,
> > > but almost nothing else.
> > >
> > > At the time, WordPad [write.exe] was the Microsoft approved
> > > application for testing OLE, and produced very poor results -
> > > especially in diagrams with clouds and shadows.
> > >
> > > The solution was fairly easy - export Visio to a file format that
> > > other applications can use, and pick the one that works best. This was
> > > by far the easiest way so that every file could be version controlled
> > > and managed well.
> > >
> > > Typically, if problems are reported in FrameMaker, I like to see how
> > > other applications handle the content - and often don't.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > // Simon BUCH -- M-AIS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 at 22:02, Orly Zimmerman <orlyzim at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > HI All, I'm currently running FM16 - 2020 via the Adobe Technical
> > > Suite.I have a number of Visio's embedded in my chapters. I've noticed
> > that
> > > if some of the Visio items use shading or pattern fills, this does not
> > > translate well to PDF. (I get black or white boxes completely
> > obliterating
> > > parts of the image).Maybe I'm using the wrong PDF setting to get these
> to
> > > show properly ?Or is it that I just can't use Visio OLE objects with
> > > shading/pattern fill via FM?
> > > >
> > > > Also, the OLE image, viewed in the FM itself is a little off, but the
> > > PDF is completely illegible.Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks and Happy Holidays to all!Orly
> > > >
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