[Framers] Rendering embedded Visio with shading/pattern fill from FM to PDF problem

Peter Gold peter at petergold.photography
Wed Dec 30 15:11:43 PST 2020


Lin, does FM recognize that imported reduced file size - by copy or
reference - PDFs as smaller?

On Wed, Dec 30, 2020, 4:43 PM Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:

> I can tell you that exporting the Visio to PDF works perfectly. The export
> to SVG less so: as long as there are no stencil objects or grouped objects,
> the SVG works. If there are objects added from stencils or if you group
> anything, you'll find parts of objects moved all over the place. I believe
> the developers have been trying to solve this for a while (I have a bug
> report and they've contacted me about it), but I don't know yet if they've
> fixed it. PDFs tend to blow up the file size, even when imported by
> reference, but at least they work!
>
> I have a vague memory of trying to open an SVG created by Visio in
> Illustrator and seeing the same issue. I don't know if that means it's an
> issue with the Visio export (which would not surprise me, as Microsoft is
> notorious for "customizing" things so they only work properly in their own
> products) or an issue with import by Adobe products. I do know that the SVG
> created by Visio export displays just fine in any browser I've opened them
> in.
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 2:15 PM Simon Buch <Simon.Buch at m-ais.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > The last time I tried using Microsoft Visio OLE objects with
> > FrameMaker was quite some years ago, and produced poor results while
> > printing.  It turns out that Microsoft Office can handle OLE objects,
> > but almost nothing else.
> >
> > At the time, WordPad [write.exe] was the Microsoft approved
> > application for testing OLE, and produced very poor results -
> > especially in diagrams with clouds and shadows.
> >
> > The solution was fairly easy - export Visio to a file format that
> > other applications can use, and pick the one that works best. This was
> > by far the easiest way so that every file could be version controlled
> > and managed well.
> >
> > Typically, if problems are reported in FrameMaker, I like to see how
> > other applications handle the content - and often don't.
> >
> > Regards
> > // Simon BUCH -- M-AIS
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 at 22:02, Orly Zimmerman <orlyzim at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > HI All, I'm currently running FM16 - 2020 via the Adobe Technical
> > Suite.I have a number of Visio's embedded in my chapters. I've noticed
> that
> > if some of the Visio items use shading or pattern fills, this does not
> > translate well to PDF. (I get black or white boxes completely
> obliterating
> > parts of the image).Maybe I'm using the wrong PDF setting to get these to
> > show properly ?Or is it that I just can't use Visio OLE objects with
> > shading/pattern fill via FM?
> > >
> > > Also, the OLE image, viewed in the FM itself is a little off, but the
> > PDF is completely illegible.Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Thanks and Happy Holidays to all!Orly
> > >
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