[Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 171, Issue 8

[Phillip Norman]

I am an unusual FrameMaker user. I use v5.5.6 nearly every day, for the
ability to make quite-complex 2D drawings integral with the superior text
creation. I join in the nostalgia. I saw FrameMaker as the most-impressive
software on a Next computer at a roll-out beyond that to academics, in
Providence, RI. My first owned copy was at v5.5. I address this
conversation with wish the simple nearly-free tools I use, should be
packaged for a large new set of users, for purchase at very small cost. If
Adobe isn't interested, look for other possibilities.

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>    1. Re:  FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person (Ralf Kohler)
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> From: Ralf Kohler <r.a.kohler at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
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> Dear List,
>
> Klaus Daube was so friendly to pass on my question. So far I am very
> grateful for the feedback. It helped me formulate my question more
> concisely: I am looking for the two tutorials ?Learning FrameMaker? and
> ?Using FrameMaker?. Both have been published by
> Frame Technology in 1989. From what I can see looking in the world cat
> database, there has been a general UNIX edition but not a specific NeXTSTEP
> one. Is that correct, or does anybody remember otherwise? I will try to get
> this issue through interlibrary loan in my local library. But if someone
> happens to have an e-book, I would be very grateful if I could borrow it.
> By the way, I really want to work with it, so it's not pure nostalgia.
> During the covid-19 lockdown I have sketched a music theory book which I
> would like to develop now further in the next month to come. I still use
> NextSTEP to this day because I still consider the GUI to be unsurpassed in
> its simplicity and functionality.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ralf
>
> > On 16. Jun 2020, at 02:07, Robert Lauriston <robert at lauriston.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > There was an external SCSI CD-ROM drive later on.
> >
> >
> http://www.kevra.org/TheBestOfNext/NeXTProducts/NeXTHardware/ExternalCD-ROM-Drive/files/page624_2.pdf
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:01 PM Fred Ridder <docudoc at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Actually, the original NeXT computer was designed before CD-ROM was
> standardized. The so-called Yellow Book that contained the CD-ROM standards
> was published in 1988, the same year that the NeXT was introduced. Instead,
> the original NeXT computer came with a magneto-optical disc drive that used
> removable disc cartridges as both the primary storage and the external
> media device while a magnetic hard drive was an option.
> >>
> >> In 1990, the second generation NeXT -- the one that was officially
> named the NeXTcube -- dropped the MO drive in favor of a conventional hard
> disc as the primary storage. A 3.5" HD floppy drive was available as an
> option and every cube I saw was fitted with one. The NeXTstation (the pizza
> box) came with a 3.5" floppy standard.
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> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 11:23:54 -0700
> From: Robert Lauriston <robert at lauriston.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
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> I'm pretty sure FrameMaker 3.0 will work only with legacy fonts.
>
> If you like NextStep, you ought to like OS X / MacOS. It's a direct
> descendant and quite recognizable as such. Lots of scorewriter / music
> notation software.
>
> My main problem with NextStep is that I had to use the mouse for
> everything. It felt like their design guideline was "never type when
> you can click, never click when you can click and drag." Using the
> mouse so much gave me a bone spur that messed up my rotator cuff.
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 3:18 AM Ralf Kohler <r.a.kohler at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> ... By the way, I really want to work with it, so it's not pure
> nostalgia. During the covid-19 lockdown I have sketched a music theory
> book which I would like to develop now further in the next month to
> come. I still use NextSTEP to this day because I still consider the
> GUI to be unsurpassed in its simplicity and functionality.
>
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