[Framers] Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs

Fri Oct 23 13:32:52 PDT 2020

I have a couple of ExtendScripts that might help. One adds a newlink to specific paragraph formats and the other adds the gotolink. You would need to customize them and possibly modify them in other ways, but it might be a start. Let me know if you would like for me to send them to you. (I don't know if we are allowed to send attachments here.)

Julie 

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   1. Re:  Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs (Lin Sims)
   2. Re:  Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs (Steve Rickaby)

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 08:45:52 -0400
From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
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I must be missing something here, or misunderstanding what you are trying to do. A cross-reference is a hyperlink. If you are using a specific paragraph tag for your target, why not just use a cross-reference?

Or you could use Glossary markers. Matt Sullivan has a good section explaining how to set up Glossary Terms and Glossary Definitions (marker types you'd have to create) in his FrameMaker Working with Content book ( https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://techcommtools.com/books/__;!!KwNVnqRv!UjthGn2Gjlzi2JoNodQTJ_4BVpr2g5seqMVlSLBfO4dITNyRREzSCnJtG8lNxeP8Mw$ ). That one is for 2017, but he's putting out one for 2020 soon.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 1:40 PM Bertrand Meyer <Bertrand.Meyer at inf.ethz.ch>
wrote:

> This is a novice question. In fact I am not a novice as I have been 
> using FrameMaker extensively for many years, but I have not used 
> intra-document hyperlinks so far, jut  cross-references (lots and lots  of them).
>
>
>
> What I want to do now is simple to state: have text of the form
>
>
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>                 Blah blah this is some text and that is a pointer to 
> some other part of the text
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>
>
> where pointer (using a specific character format, in this case causing
> underlining) is a hyperlink or equivalent so that in the generated PDF 
> clicking it will go to some designated target place in the text.
>
>
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> I am used to cross-references, as in
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>                 ... This was discussed in section 4.5, page 67, of the 
> previous chapter ...
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>
>
> but they only make it possible to have a source that is a reference 
> format; as far as I know they do not make it possible to have as 
> source of the hyperlink an arbitrary word, such as "pointer" above.
>
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> I also know how to create a hyperlink, putting a "gotolink XXX" 
> Hypertext marker under pointer (the source location) and another of 
> the form "newlink XXX" at the target location.
>
>
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> But this is horrible because I need to invent a new label ("XXX") for 
> every single target, and insert "newlink XXX" at the corresponding 
> place. I have
> -- literally -- thousands such locations; inserting them would consume 
> several days of my life, spent in a silly way since there is no 
> conceptual need for these markers.
>
>
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> (The text, by the way, is the revision of the Eiffel standard of which 
> the previous version is at 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ecma-international.org/publica
> tions/standards/Ecma-367.htm__;!!KwNVnqRv!UjthGn2Gjlzi2JoNodQTJ_4BVpr2
> g5seqMVlSLBfO4dITNyRREzSCnJtG8nEG51xTQ$ . If you look up the text you 
> will see that it has thousands of underlined elements, e.g. unfolded 
> form in the last bullet item on page 97. They correspond to concepts 
> defined formally elsewhere in the text. At the moment one has to look 
> them up in the index, or perform a search. They should be hyperlinks! 
> Hence the question.)
>
>
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> The reason it is pointless to have to insert "newlink XXX" all over 
> the place is that since the hyperlinks always go to tart paragraphs of 
> specific types ("formats"). (I fanatically use FrameMaker 
> paragraph-typing
> mechanisms.) I just want to link to a specific paragraph of a specific 
> type, choosing it from the automatically list, as I do with 
> cross-references.
>
>
>
> Is there a way to do this?
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> I am using FrameMaker 2015, although I will soon update to the latest 
> version.
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> Thanks in advance for any suggestions and best regards,
>
>
>
> -- Bertrand Meyer
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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 13:49:31 +0100
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>I must be missing something here, or misunderstanding what you are trying
>to do. A cross-reference is a hyperlink. If you are using a specific
>paragraph tag for your target, why not just use a cross-reference?

I'm glad you posted this, Lin. I was about to do the same, but then my Inner Voice said "Nah - you've been out of the loop too long: you're missing something. Keep quiet." :-)

-- 
Steve

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