[Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

Tue Aug 10 15:47:24 PDT 2021

Cost is relative. So is time. Consider what deliverable formats are/will be
required, and the effort to convert from those you can create on your
current setup, and what formats future projects will require. One option
might be to reserve your current working outfit for paying contract work,
to extend its life, and get a new(er) rig for daily personal use.

Another option might be arranging for logging into contract client sites
remotely, and working on their equipment with their licensed software, just
like tech-support folks often do to bail out troubled users.

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 3:58 PM Ken Poshedly <poshedly at bellsouth.net> wrote:

>  My turn. And I know that I'm not alone with what I describe below.
>
> So now that I am doing occasional contract work with FM10, I fear that at
> some time, I also will need to upgrade my desktop hardware and attempt an
> FM10 reinstall and may encounter the same thing Bodvar did.
> With a giant catalog of various FM files on my desktop, what are my
> options? I've been using Word since the mid-1990s, but totally dislike it
> and its propensity to glitch and do its own thing.
> Subscribing to FM2020 (or whatever) for a grand (or whatever) is just not
> going to work for me (on SS and doing some contract work).
> -- Ken in Atlanta
> **********************
>     On Tuesday, August 10, 2021, 4:27:37 PM EDT, Peter Gold
> <peter at petergold.photography> wrote:
>
>  Hi, Sayed
>
> My FM roots began with v. 2.0 on Mac! Thanks for the link to  the FM -
> Affinity comparison at fixthephoto. I found its information unhelpful from
> a user's POV.
>
> More power to you for having the ability to use major tools like LaTeX!
>
> Hoping to hear from Böðvar on his Affinity experience.
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 3:01 PM Syed Zaeem Hosain <Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>
> wrote:
>
> > I have no real clue about Affinity, but you may find this interesting:
> > https://fixthephoto.com/adobe-framemaker-vs-affinity-publisher.html
> >
> > For me, I switched to LaTeX (for my technical documents) after FM12 when
> > the pricing/upgrade costs went berserk (IMHO), and from InDesign (minimal
> > use really) and Photoshop to various Xara tools - now integrated into
> their
> > Designer Pro lineup.
> >
> > The price is right for those replacement tools, and they do exactly what
> I
> > need from them. With rational licensing and upgrade prices!
> >
> > YMMV, of course.
> >
> > Z
> >
> > Pardon my harping on these in a FrameMaker mailing list ... I feel that
> as
> > an early adopter of FM (version 1.3, as I recall, on a Sun 3/50 back in
> > 1988), I have earned the right a bit, I hope! 😊
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Framers <framers-bounces+syed.hosain=
> aeris.net at lists.frameusers.com>
> > On Behalf Of Böðvar Björgvinsson
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:44 PM
> > To: framers <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
> >
> > Hello all you great people!
> >
> > Sorry for the (Adobe) rant.
> >
> > Due to my laptop's old age I found myself needing a new pc, a desktop
> this
> > time. All is well with everything but Adobe FM. I recently tried to
> install
> > my FM12 which I had lost any info about, and got a categorical No Go from
> > Adobe Support (contradiction in terms).
> >
> > However I managed to install my FM 10, legally bought with CD and all
> (for
> > two computers but only one using it at a time) and got it set up and
> > working OK. Only, when I tried to use it again, I got a message that it
> > needs activation with Adobe. I ended up contacting Adobe online support
> who
> > finally sent me an update and everything went well—for the time being.
> >
> > Now, some 10-15 days later I started FM10, only to find that it wanted
> > activation with Adobe and I had 15 days until it would not be working at
> > all. At first it said, no Internet. Then it said I was connected and I
> > tried and I got the message that I had no internet connection and would
> > have to try again (and some other variation and try again.
> >
> > The recommended webpage is of little or no help.
> >
> > So finally I contacted Adobe online support. It took them approx. 90
> > minutes to figure it out. The product was too old for their databases. I
> > gave the guy access to my PC and he started digging. Finally I had to
> > uninstall and reinstall the FM upon which he sent me some kind of update
> > (license key, probably) which he didn't manage to obey, and the same all
> > over again. Then I remembered the update (TCS3) which he installed and
> then
> > the other update and all went well. He told me he had given it a new
> > license key (serial number) registered to my name. I hope for the best!
> And
> > I really recommend those guys on the Adobe online support.
> >
> > But I think I am permanently giving up on Adobe. Nowadays they seem only
> > to want your money. And a lot of it. Working now on probably my last FM
> > project.
> >
> > Going for Affinity from now on, which seems fabulous software.
> >
> > That's all for now.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Bodvar
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