[Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

Wed Aug 11 11:46:49 PDT 2021

Have you considered opening and saving your FM 2015 (and earlier) files as
MIF and also as one or more common interchangeable formats, using books,
and/or scripts, to create a stored legacy?

It would be interesting to hear what you find about Affinity <-> InDesign
conversion. Dtptools' MIF Filter for InDesign had a per-page cost, and its
anchored-frame conversion is crude.

It would be interesting to hear from everyone considering one or another of
these FM-alternative future workflows what FM features you must have in
that destination application. In the past, David Creamer and others have
posted FM feature comparisons with competitive applications. These would
simplifying the compilation of your personal wish list.

I'm not sure if FM is available as a monthly subscription like other Adobe
cloud-based applications, but if so, that might be a reasonable compromise
solution.

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 1:04 PM Böðvar Björgvinsson <bodvar at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all the replies.
>
> I can see that more people than me are having a problem of this kind.
>
> Actually, on my old laptop I have FM2015, which I love, but am not able to
> use on my new desktop (all references missing), so FM 10 will have to do.
> I will have a lot of work to do to change my numerous 2015 files to older
> version in mif for the FM10.
> I was lucky enough to get an offer for the Affinity suite at half price,
> and now a free upgrade which allows for thousands of pages, a lot faster
> start etc. I am not using it yet for any real work as I haven't had the
> time to familiarize myself with it.
>
> Affinity is said to read InDesign and other Adobe files except FM, but with
> the tool from dptools it might work.
>
> Brgds,
> Bodvar
>
>
>
>
> þri., 10. ágú. 2021 kl. 20:01 skrifaði Syed Zaeem Hosain <
> Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>:
>
> > I have no real clue about Affinity, but you may find this interesting:
> > https://fixthephoto.com/adobe-framemaker-vs-affinity-publisher.html
> >
> > For me, I switched to LaTeX (for my technical documents) after FM12 when
> > the pricing/upgrade costs went berserk (IMHO), and from InDesign (minimal
> > use really) and Photoshop to various Xara tools - now integrated into
> their
> > Designer Pro lineup.
> >
> > The price is right for those replacement tools, and they do exactly what
> I
> > need from them. With rational licensing and upgrade prices!
> >
> > YMMV, of course.
> >
> > Z
> >
> > Pardon my harping on these in a FrameMaker mailing list ... I feel that
> as
> > an early adopter of FM (version 1.3, as I recall, on a Sun 3/50 back in
> > 1988), I have earned the right a bit, I hope! 😊
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Framers <framers-bounces+syed.hosain=
> aeris.net at lists.frameusers.com>
> > On Behalf Of Böðvar Björgvinsson
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:44 PM
> > To: framers <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
> >
> > Hello all you great people!
> >
> > Sorry for the (Adobe) rant.
> >
> > Due to my laptop's old age I found myself needing a new pc, a desktop
> this
> > time. All is well with everything but Adobe FM. I recently tried to
> install
> > my FM12 which I had lost any info about, and got a categorical No Go from
> > Adobe Support (contradiction in terms).
> >
> > However I managed to install my FM 10, legally bought with CD and all
> (for
> > two computers but only one using it at a time) and got it set up and
> > working OK. Only, when I tried to use it again, I got a message that it
> > needs activation with Adobe. I ended up contacting Adobe online support
> who
> > finally sent me an update and everything went well—for the time being.
> >
> > Now, some 10-15 days later I started FM10, only to find that it wanted
> > activation with Adobe and I had 15 days until it would not be working at
> > all. At first it said, no Internet. Then it said I was connected and I
> > tried and I got the message that I had no internet connection and would
> > have to try again (and some other variation and try again.
> >
> > The recommended webpage is of little or no help.
> >
> > So finally I contacted Adobe online support. It took them approx. 90
> > minutes to figure it out. The product was too old for their databases. I
> > gave the guy access to my PC and he started digging. Finally I had to
> > uninstall and reinstall the FM upon which he sent me some kind of update
> > (license key, probably) which he didn't manage to obey, and the same all
> > over again. Then I remembered the update (TCS3) which he installed and
> then
> > the other update and all went well. He told me he had given it a new
> > license key (serial number) registered to my name. I hope for the best!
> And
> > I really recommend those guys on the Adobe online support.
> >
> > But I think I am permanently giving up on Adobe. Nowadays they seem only
> > to want your money. And a lot of it. Working now on probably my last FM
> > project.
> >
> > Going for Affinity from now on, which seems fabulous software.
> >
> > That's all for now.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Bodvar
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