[Framers] TOC issue

tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com
Fri Dec 17 10:31:19 PST 2021 

Hi Everyone,

OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC).

Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the character didn't begin the link, all was OK.

Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this little gem anyway.

Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience.

Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers <framers-
> bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com at lists.frameusers.com> On
> Behalf Of Peter Gold
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue
> 
> Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem paragraphs,
> to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try deleting or;
> hiding the bad ones one with a condition.
> 
> Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit. Have you
> tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials, then
> regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide it, to ignore the
> placeholder, and regen.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com <
> tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> 
> > 😀😀
> >
> > What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . .
> > And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port in
> > a storm. . .
> >
> > Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my rescue
> > in these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear back from him,
> > and learn what the obvious problem it is. . .
> >
> > Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point I’m so
> > frustrated) but not to me!
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> >
> > > On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible <rentagoodbook at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tammy,
> > > I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried everything I
> > would
> > > have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation), but as
> > > a workaround, can you manually create these links in Acrobat after
> > > the
> > fact?
> > > To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch...
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > > -Lise
> > >
> > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com <
> > >> tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Craig,
> > >>
> > >> No there is no difference in the character formatting between these
> > >> five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC.
> > >>
> > >> All the EquationCaption  paragraph tags are formatted identically
> > without
> > >> any overrides or additional character settings.
> > >>
> > >> But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely
> > >> welcome them.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you!
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> > >>
> > >>>> On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede <craigede at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of
> > >>> these 5
> > >> lines being used for the TOC?
> > >>>
> > >>> Craig Ed
> > >>>
> > >>> ________________________________
> > >>> From: Framers <framers-bounces+craigede=
> > hotmail.com at lists.frameusers.com>
> > >> on behalf of tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com <
> > >> tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com>
> > >>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM
> > >>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > >>> Subject: [Framers] TOC issue
> > >>>
> > >>> OK,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing to
> > >>> solve
> > >> this
> > >>> issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss.  I have a book for which
> > >>> I am generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary paragraph
> > >>> tags for the
> > >> TOC
> > >>> and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as
> > >>> hyperlinks
> > >> as
> > >>> they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are
> > >>> deader
> > >> than a
> > >>> door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries is
> > >>> an
> > >> active
> > >>> hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is also an
> > active
> > >>> hyperlink.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I have done the following:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 1.      Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it.
> > >>> 2.      Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags - the
> > >> text
> > >>> is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing for
> > them.)
> > >>> 3.      Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the book
> > to
> > >>> check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text
> > >>> that was causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions turned
> > >>> on, I still
> > have
> > >>> the issue.
> > >>> 4.      Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly above
> > >> and
> > >>> directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and
> > >> regenerated
> > >>> and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5
> > >>> remain stubbornly dead.
> > >>> 5.      All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that
> > maybe
> > >>> there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant graphics
> > >>> and regenerated and again, the links are still dead.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small section in
> > >>> an otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so there's nothing
> > >>> common
> > about
> > >>> this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book as no
> > other
> > >>> sections are giving me this problem.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> TVB
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Tammy Van Boening
> > >>>
> > >>> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> > >>>
> > >>> www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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