[Framers] TOC issue
Peter Gold
peter at petergold.photography
Fri Dec 17 10:46:46 PST 2021
Great news! Thanks to Rick!
This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA bug,
that needs formal reporting,
Someone please report it. Thanks.
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM <tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do
> contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem to
> recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago and
> ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) punctuation
> characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC).
>
> Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of the
> link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was taught
> incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the character didn't
> begin the link, all was OK.
>
> Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will solve
> the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user (especially me),
> and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this little gem anyway.
>
> Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post to
> this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn so many
> little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can come only from
> tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience.
>
> Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays.
>
> TVB
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Framers <framers-
> > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com at lists.frameusers.com> On
> > Behalf Of Peter Gold
> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue
> >
> > Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem
> paragraphs,
> > to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try deleting
> or;
> > hiding the bad ones one with a condition.
> >
> > Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit. Have
> you
> > tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials, then
> > regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide it, to
> ignore the
> > placeholder, and regen.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com <
> > tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 😀😀
> > >
> > > What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . .
> > > And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port in
> > > a storm. . .
> > >
> > > Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my rescue
> > > in these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear back from him,
> > > and learn what the obvious problem it is. . .
> > >
> > > Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point I’m so
> > > frustrated) but not to me!
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> > >
> > > > On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible <rentagoodbook at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Tammy,
> > > > I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried everything I
> > > would
> > > > have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation), but as
> > > > a workaround, can you manually create these links in Acrobat after
> > > > the
> > > fact?
> > > > To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch...
> > > >
> > > > Good luck!
> > > > -Lise
> > > >
> > > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com <
> > > >> tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Craig,
> > > >>
> > > >> No there is no difference in the character formatting between these
> > > >> five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC.
> > > >>
> > > >> All the EquationCaption paragraph tags are formatted identically
> > > without
> > > >> any overrides or additional character settings.
> > > >>
> > > >> But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely
> > > >> welcome them.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you!
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> > > >>
> > > >>>> On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede <craigede at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of
> > > >>> these 5
> > > >> lines being used for the TOC?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Craig Ed
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ________________________________
> > > >>> From: Framers <framers-bounces+craigede=
> > > hotmail.com at lists.frameusers.com>
> > > >> on behalf of tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com <
> > > >> tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com>
> > > >>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM
> > > >>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > > >>> Subject: [Framers] TOC issue
> > > >>>
> > > >>> OK,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing to
> > > >>> solve
> > > >> this
> > > >>> issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss. I have a book for which
> > > >>> I am generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary paragraph
> > > >>> tags for the
> > > >> TOC
> > > >>> and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as
> > > >>> hyperlinks
> > > >> as
> > > >>> they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are
> > > >>> deader
> > > >> than a
> > > >>> door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries is
> > > >>> an
> > > >> active
> > > >>> hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is also an
> > > active
> > > >>> hyperlink.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I have done the following:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 1. Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it.
> > > >>> 2. Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags -
> the
> > > >> text
> > > >>> is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing for
> > > them.)
> > > >>> 3. Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the
> book
> > > to
> > > >>> check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text
> > > >>> that was causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions turned
> > > >>> on, I still
> > > have
> > > >>> the issue.
> > > >>> 4. Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly
> above
> > > >> and
> > > >>> directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and
> > > >> regenerated
> > > >>> and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5
> > > >>> remain stubbornly dead.
> > > >>> 5. All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that
> > > maybe
> > > >>> there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant graphics
> > > >>> and regenerated and again, the links are still dead.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small section in
> > > >>> an otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so there's nothing
> > > >>> common
> > > about
> > > >>> this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book as no
> > > other
> > > >>> sections are giving me this problem.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> TVB
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Tammy Van Boening
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> > > >>>
> > > >>> www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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