[Framers] TOC issue

Fri Dec 17 14:17:57 PST 2021

Cudspan's "tocbreaker" might be the magic tool. Try a web search.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:06 PM Heiko Haida <info at heiko-haida.de> wrote:

>
>
> If you prepare a title text with some nonbreaking spaces (that do not
> bother in the place where the title is) according to your idea how this
> should look like in the TOC, the text then will always keep together in
> the TOC when regenerated.
> This may help, or at least may help for most of the lines in the TOC.
>
> Of course, this is not such a good idea if the text has to be translated
> to other languages where the line breaks have to be set differently.
>
> Best regards --- Tino H. Haida, Berlin
>
> tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com:
>
> > OK, Rick's script saved my bacon yet again, and while I am on a roll, I
> > am gonna' get greedy and ask if someone can refresh the fuzzy recesses
> > of my aging mind.
> >
> > Right now, when I have lines that don't wrap correctly in my TOC (based
> > on the length of the text for a tag), I am going through and manually
> > adding the needed breaks, but of course, this is tedious work and I
> > loathe doing it every time I produce a final book because either I
> > forget to do it or I miss a line or two.
> >
> > Wasn't there a script "out there somewhere?" that magically did this
> > for you?
> >
> > If anyone remembers this script and can point me in the right direction
> > (other than off a cliff which is what I feel like doing right now), I
> > would most appreciate it.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > TVB
> >
> > Tammy Van Boening
> > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> > www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Framers <framers-
> > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com at lists.frameusers.com> On
> > Behalf Of Peter Gold
> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:47 AM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue
> >
> > Great news! Thanks to Rick!
> >
> > This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA
> > bug,  that
> > needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM <tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do
> > contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem
> > to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago
> > and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented)
> > punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the
> > ToC).
> >
> > Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of
> > the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was
> > taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the
> > character didn't begin the link, all was OK.
> >
> > Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will
> > solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user
> > (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about
> > this little gem anyway.
> > Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post
> > to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn
> > so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can
> > come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience.
> >
> > Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays.
> >
> > TVB
> >
> > Tammy Van Boening
> > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> > www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Framers <framers-
> > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com at lists.frameusers.com> On
> > Behalf Of Peter Gold
> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue
> >
> > Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem
> > paragraphs, to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't,
> > try
> > deleting or; hiding the bad ones one with a condition.
> >
> > Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit.
> > Have you tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book
> > materials,
> > then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide
> > it, to ignore the placeholder, and regen.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com <
> > tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> >
> > 😀😀
> >
> > What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . .
> > And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port
> > in a storm. . .
> >
> > Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my
> > rescue in these frustrating situations, so I'm waiting to hear
> > back from him, and learn what the obvious problem it is. . .
> >
> > Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point
> > I'm so
> > frustrated) but not to me!
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible
> > <rentagoodbook at gmail.com>
>   wrote:
>
> >> Tammy,
> >> I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried
> >> everything I
> > would
> >
> >> have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation),
> >> but as a workaround, can you manually create these links in
> >> Acrobat after the
> > fact? To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch...
> >
> > Good luck!
> > -Lise
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com
> > < tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Craig,
> >
> > No there is no difference in the character formatting between
> > these five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the
>   TOC.
>
> > All the EquationCaption  paragraph tags are formatted
> > identically
>   without
>
> > any overrides or additional character settings.
> >
> > But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely
> > welcome them.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede <craigede at hotmail.com>
>   wrote:
>
> > Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of
> > these 5 lines being used for the TOC?
> > Craig Ed
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Framers <framers-bounces+craigede=
>   hotmail.com at lists.frameusers.com>
>
> > on behalf of tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com <
> > tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: [Framers] TOC issue
> >
> > OK,
> >
> > Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing
> > to solve this issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss.  I have a book
> > for
> > which I am generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary
> > paragraph tags for the TOC and generated. All the entries in the TOC
> > are functioning as
> > hyperlinks as they should with the exception of 5 specific entries.
> > They are
> > deader than a door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five
> > entries
> > is an active hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is
> > also an
>   active
>
> > hyperlink.
> >
> > I have done the following:
> >
> > 1.      Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it.
> > 2.      Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags -
>   the
>
> > text is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing
> > for
>   them.)
>
> > 3.      Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the
>   book
>
> > to check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text
> > that was causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions
> > turned on, I still
>   have
>
> > the issue.
> > 4.      Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly
>   above
>
> > and directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and
> > regenerated and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these
> > 5
> > remain stubbornly dead.
> > 5.      All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that
>   maybe
>
> > there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant
> > graphics and regenerated and again, the links are still dead.
> >
> > I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small
> > section in an otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so
> > there's nothing common
>   about
>
> > this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book
> > as no
>   other
>
> > sections are giving me this problem.
> >
> > I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > TVB
> >
> > Tammy Van Boening
> >
> > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
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