[Framers] TOC issue

Fri Dec 17 14:06:29 PST 2021

If you prepare a title text with some nonbreaking spaces (that do not 
bother in the place where the title is) according to your idea how this 
should look like in the TOC, the text then will always keep together in 
the TOC when regenerated.
This may help, or at least may help for most of the lines in the TOC.

Of course, this is not such a good idea if the text has to be translated 
to other languages where the line breaks have to be set differently.

Best regards --- Tino H. Haida, Berlin

tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com:

> OK, Rick's script saved my bacon yet again, and while I am on a roll, I 
> am gonna' get greedy and ask if someone can refresh the fuzzy recesses 
> of my aging mind.
> 
> Right now, when I have lines that don't wrap correctly in my TOC (based 
> on the length of the text for a tag), I am going through and manually 
> adding the needed breaks, but of course, this is tedious work and I 
> loathe doing it every time I produce a final book because either I 
> forget to do it or I miss a line or two.
> 
> Wasn't there a script "out there somewhere?" that magically did this 
> for you?
> 
> If anyone remembers this script and can point me in the right direction 
> (other than off a cliff which is what I feel like doing right now), I 
> would most appreciate it.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> TVB
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1]
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers <framers-
> bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com at lists.frameusers.com> On
> Behalf Of Peter Gold
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:47 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue
> 
> Great news! Thanks to Rick!
> 
> This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA 
> bug,  that
> needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM <tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do
> contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem
> to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago
> and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented)
> punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the 
> ToC).
> 
> Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of
> the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was
> taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the
> character didn't begin the link, all was OK.
> 
> Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will
> solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user
> (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about 
> this little gem anyway.
> Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post
> to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn
> so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can
> come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience.
> 
> Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays.
> 
> TVB
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1]
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers <framers-
> bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com at lists.frameusers.com> On
> Behalf Of Peter Gold
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue
> 
> Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem 
> paragraphs, to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, 
> try
> deleting or; hiding the bad ones one with a condition.
> 
> Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit.
> Have you tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book 
> materials,
> then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide
> it, to ignore the placeholder, and regen.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com <
> tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> 
> 😀😀
> 
> What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . .
> And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port
> in a storm. . .
> 
> Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my
> rescue in these frustrating situations, so I'm waiting to hear
> back from him, and learn what the obvious problem it is. . .
> 
> Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point
> I'm so
> frustrated) but not to me!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> 
> On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible
> <rentagoodbook at gmail.com>
  wrote:

>> Tammy,
>> I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried
>> everything I
> would
> 
>> have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation),
>> but as a workaround, can you manually create these links in
>> Acrobat after the
> fact? To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch...
> 
> Good luck!
> -Lise
> 
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com
> < tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Craig,
> 
> No there is no difference in the character formatting between
> these five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the
  TOC.

> All the EquationCaption  paragraph tags are formatted
> identically
  without

> any overrides or additional character settings.
> 
> But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely
> welcome them.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> 
> On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede <craigede at hotmail.com>
  wrote:

> Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of
> these 5 lines being used for the TOC?
> Craig Ed
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Framers <framers-bounces+craigede=
  hotmail.com at lists.frameusers.com>

> on behalf of tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com <
> tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: [Framers] TOC issue
> 
> OK,
> 
> Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing
> to solve this issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss.  I have a book 
> for
> which I am generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary
> paragraph tags for the TOC and generated. All the entries in the TOC 
> are functioning as
> hyperlinks as they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. 
> They are
> deader than a door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five 
> entries
> is an active hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is
> also an
  active

> hyperlink.
> 
> I have done the following:
> 
> 1.      Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it.
> 2.      Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags -
  the

> text is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing
> for
  them.)

> 3.      Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the
  book

> to check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text
> that was causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions
> turned on, I still
  have

> the issue.
> 4.      Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly
  above

> and directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and 
> regenerated and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 
> 5
> remain stubbornly dead.
> 5.      All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that
  maybe

> there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant
> graphics and regenerated and again, the links are still dead.
> 
> I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small
> section in an otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so
> there's nothing common
  about

> this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book
> as no
  other

> sections are giving me this problem.
> 
> I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> TVB
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> 
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
  www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1]<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>

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