[Framers] TOC issue
Shmuel Wolfson
shmuelw1 at gmail.com
Sun Dec 19 02:26:34 PST 2021
This was a very bad decision to have this "functionality." I'm truly
amazed that they would think this is a good feature. Having lots of
partially broken links in my PDF is not worth whatever they think they
are gaining in terms of functionality.
If they really think this is such an important feature, they could at
least put in an option in the settings to opt out of this feature, and
not have broken links. If they make this one change, I'm going to ask
my company to pay for a new version, which I haven't done in years.
On 17-Dec-21 8:58 PM, [1]rick at rickquatro.com wrote:
This is not really a bug but a "feature," at least according to the FrameMaker d
ocumentation. I posted some information, including screenshots, on the Adobe For
ums.
[2]https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker-discussions/broken-toc-links/m-p/12
602277#M73178
Rick
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Great news! Thanks to Rick!
This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA bug, that n
eeds formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks.
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM [5]<tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do
contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem
to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago
and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented)
punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC).
Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of
the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was
taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the
character didn't begin the link, all was OK.
Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will
solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user
(especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this little
gem anyway.
Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post
to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn
so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can
come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience.
Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays.
TVB
Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
[6]www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem
paragraphs,
to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try
deleting
or;
hiding the bad ones one with a condition.
Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit.
Have
you
tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials,
then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide
it, to
ignore the
placeholder, and regen.
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com <
[9]tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
😀😀
What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . .
And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port
in a storm. . .
Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my
rescue in these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear
back from him, and learn what the obvious problem it is. . .
Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point
I’m so
frustrated) but not to me!
Thanks!
Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible
[10]<rentagoodbook at gmail.com>
wrote:
Tammy,
I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried
everything I
would
have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation),
but as a workaround, can you manually create these links in
Acrobat after the
fact?
To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch...
Good luck!
-Lise
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com
< [11]tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
Hi Craig,
No there is no difference in the character formatting between
these five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC.
All the EquationCaption paragraph tags are formatted
identically
without
any overrides or additional character settings.
But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely
welcome them.
Thank you!
Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede [12]<craigede at hotmail.com>
wrote:
Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of
these 5
lines being used for the TOC?
Craig Ed
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Subject: [Framers] TOC issue
OK,
Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing
to solve
this
issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss. I have a book for
which I am generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary
paragraph tags for the
TOC
and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as
hyperlinks
as
they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are
deader
than a
door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries
is an
active
hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is
also an
active
hyperlink.
I have done the following:
1. Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it.
2. Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags -
the
text
is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing
for
them.)
3. Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the
book
to
check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text
that was causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions
turned on, I still
have
the issue.
4. Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly
above
and
directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and
regenerated
and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5
remain stubbornly dead.
5. All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that
maybe
there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant
graphics and regenerated and again, the links are still dead.
I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small
section in an otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so
there's nothing common
about
this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book
as no
other
sections are giving me this problem.
I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc.
Regards,
TVB
Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
[18]www.spectrumwritingllc.com[19]<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>
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