[Framers] TOC issue

tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com
Fri Dec 17 12:26:07 PST 2021 

OK, Rick's script saved my bacon yet again, and while I am on a roll, I am gonna' get greedy and ask if someone can refresh the fuzzy recesses of my aging mind.

Right now, when I have lines that don't wrap correctly in my TOC (based on the length of the text for a tag), I am going through and manually adding the needed breaks, but of course, this is tedious work and I loathe doing it every time I produce a final book because either I forget to do it or I miss a line or two.

Wasn't there a script "out there somewhere?" that magically did this for you? 

If anyone remembers this script and can point me in the right direction (other than off a cliff which is what I feel like doing right now), I would most appreciate it.

TIA,

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers <framers-
> bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com at lists.frameusers.com> On
> Behalf Of Peter Gold
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:47 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue
> 
> Great news! Thanks to Rick!
> 
> This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA bug,  that
> needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM <tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do
> > contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem
> > to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago
> > and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented)
> > punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC).
> >
> > Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of
> > the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was
> > taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the
> > character didn't begin the link, all was OK.
> >
> > Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will
> > solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user
> > (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this
> little gem anyway.
> >
> > Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post
> > to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn
> > so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can
> > come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience.
> >
> > Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays.
> >
> > TVB
> >
> > Tammy Van Boening
> > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> > www.spectrumwritingllc.com
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Framers <framers-
> > > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com at lists.frameusers.com> On
> > > Behalf Of Peter Gold
> > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM
> > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > > <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue
> > >
> > > Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem
> > paragraphs,
> > > to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try
> > > deleting
> > or;
> > > hiding the bad ones one with a condition.
> > >
> > > Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit.
> > > Have
> > you
> > > tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials,
> > > then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide
> > > it, to
> > ignore the
> > > placeholder, and regen.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com <
> > > tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 😀😀
> > > >
> > > > What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . .
> > > > And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port
> > > > in a storm. . .
> > > >
> > > > Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my
> > > > rescue in these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear
> > > > back from him, and learn what the obvious problem it is. . .
> > > >
> > > > Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point
> > > > I’m so
> > > > frustrated) but not to me!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> > > >
> > > > > On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible
> > > > > <rentagoodbook at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Tammy,
> > > > > I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried
> > > > > everything I
> > > > would
> > > > > have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation),
> > > > > but as a workaround, can you manually create these links in
> > > > > Acrobat after the
> > > > fact?
> > > > > To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch...
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck!
> > > > > -Lise
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com
> > > > >> < tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi Craig,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> No there is no difference in the character formatting between
> > > > >> these five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the
> TOC.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> All the EquationCaption  paragraph tags are formatted
> > > > >> identically
> > > > without
> > > > >> any overrides or additional character settings.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely
> > > > >> welcome them.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thank you!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede <craigede at hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of
> > > > >>> these 5
> > > > >> lines being used for the TOC?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Craig Ed
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> ________________________________
> > > > >>> From: Framers <framers-bounces+craigede=
> > > > hotmail.com at lists.frameusers.com>
> > > > >> on behalf of tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com <
> > > > >> tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com>
> > > > >>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM
> > > > >>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > > > >>> <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> > > > >>> Subject: [Framers] TOC issue
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> OK,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing
> > > > >>> to solve
> > > > >> this
> > > > >>> issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss.  I have a book for
> > > > >>> which I am generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary
> > > > >>> paragraph tags for the
> > > > >> TOC
> > > > >>> and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as
> > > > >>> hyperlinks
> > > > >> as
> > > > >>> they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are
> > > > >>> deader
> > > > >> than a
> > > > >>> door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries
> > > > >>> is an
> > > > >> active
> > > > >>> hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is
> > > > >>> also an
> > > > active
> > > > >>> hyperlink.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I have done the following:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 1.      Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it.
> > > > >>> 2.      Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags -
> > the
> > > > >> text
> > > > >>> is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing
> > > > >>> for
> > > > them.)
> > > > >>> 3.      Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the
> > book
> > > > to
> > > > >>> check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text
> > > > >>> that was causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions
> > > > >>> turned on, I still
> > > > have
> > > > >>> the issue.
> > > > >>> 4.      Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly
> > above
> > > > >> and
> > > > >>> directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and
> > > > >> regenerated
> > > > >>> and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5
> > > > >>> remain stubbornly dead.
> > > > >>> 5.      All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that
> > > > maybe
> > > > >>> there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant
> > > > >>> graphics and regenerated and again, the links are still dead.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small
> > > > >>> section in an otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so
> > > > >>> there's nothing common
> > > > about
> > > > >>> this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book
> > > > >>> as no
> > > > other
> > > > >>> sections are giving me this problem.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Regards,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> TVB
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Tammy Van Boening
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
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