[Framers] [EXTERNAL] Re: Contents of Framers digest... Why so many of us feel the way we do....

[Lin Sims]

Note also that the contents of the PDF and the online help are identical.
It's useful if you're not connected, but it might actually be faster to use
the online help if you are.

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 11:00 AM Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:

> That PDF is useful but also a real pain, because it takes forever to open
> and searching also takes a while. This is weird, because the manual for
> 2019 is a similar size but opens and searches quickly on the same machine.
> I even tried to save it as optimized without any improvement.
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:18 AM Reng Winfried <
> w.reng at carecom-solutions.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You can download the FrameMaker help as PDF from the Adobe website:
>> https://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/help/help-resources.html
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Winfried
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Framers <framers-bounces+w.reng=
>> carecom-solutions.com at lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Blackmon, Ramona
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:00 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Re: Contents of Framers digest... Why
>> so many of us feel the way we do....
>>
>> Dennis,
>>
>> Yes, will you please post the FrameMaker manual you have for us to use as
>> reference?
>>
>> Ramona Blackmon
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Framers <framers-bounces+ramona.blackmon=
>> fluke.com at lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Dennis Hays
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 6:20 AM
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Framers] Contents of Framers digest... Why so
>> many of us feel the way we do....
>>
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>>
>> Way back in the dark ages, when FrameMaker was first ported to Windows, I
>> worked with a FM staff member, Mercedes (still fondly remember her), to
>> address bugs and issues. She sent me updates via overnight courier and
>> these were multiple disk sets, calling for a fresh install. The reason I
>> remember her name is because we talked almost daily and installation disks
>> arrived weekly or more until the issue count dropped.
>>
>> Of course, I don't expect this level of customer service anymore from any
>> software publisher, but through the years I have had bits and pieces of
>> exemplary support. On a contract to bring a trade book to press, I worked
>> with Dov over the phone as to why illustrations with schematics wouldn't
>> reproduce lines. and this from the printer's site in Michigan.
>> More recently, I worked with Adobe to resolve an issue where importing
>> and converting a MS Word document crashed FrameMaker (MS Word Track Changes
>> caused the problem - this was last year).
>>
>> I am not happy with the subscription model as I believe it's an egregious
>> affront to hold the software hostage when missing a subscription payment.
>> From a business point of view, it's a cash flow solution, reducing the
>> seasonal vagaries of software sales. But it's not customer-centric.  And
>> this is a problem.
>>
>> A while back, someone on this forum mentioned difficulty finding a
>> FrameMaker manual. I have a 1241 page Adobe PDF version dated June 1,
>> 2021 on the cover page. It's a 46MB file, but if anyone wants a copy,
>> I'll post it where it can be downloaded.
>>
>> Dennis Hays
>> Ex-Publisher of the now-extinct InFrame Magazine
>>
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