Text Inset Issue

[Joan Robins]

Thanks for all your suggestions--I apologize for being so late in my
response--had a family emergency and have been out of town and out of touch
with my work for 10 days. I will examine my file in the light of your
suggestions, Peter, and let you know the results.

Thanks so much for the detailed help!!!!

Joan

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Joan Robins Consulting, Inc.
joan at joanrobins.com
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:01:02 -0500
From: Peter Gold <peter at knowhowpro.com>
Subject: RE: Text Inset Issue, was Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13
To: "Joan Robins" <joan at joanrobins.com>,
	<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Hi, Joan:

It's not clear if your "container" document has format definitions 
whose names match *exactly* - spelling and case - those in the 
imported document.

If the files you want to import don't have matching format names, 
then "Reformat Using Current
Document's Formats" retains the format and name of the imported file 
or text flow, but the name doesn't appear in the paragraph or 
character format catalog. If the appearance of the inset's text 
resembles the appearance of the container file's text, then you won't 
see a difference.

To determine what's going on, double click the imported inset and 
choose "Convert to Text," then click into its text, and observe the 
format at the insertion point by checking the "tag information area" 
- the leftmost section of the status bar at the bottom of the 
document window. NOTE: In recent releases of FM, the paragraph format 
information in the formatting bar, below the document's menu bar, is 
known to be unreliable, but the tag information area is ALWAYS 
reliable.

If the names don't match exactly, you won't get the results you expect.

You can test what's happening by making the source's visual quality 
distinctly different from the container document, such as changing 
the text color of a paragraph format in the inset's source file. If 
you retain source's formats, the new color should appear in the 
imported inset; if you choose to reformat the import using current 
document's formats, the new color should not appear.

If the paragraph or character formats in the imported inset appear 
with a prefixed asterisk, such as *headingWhatever, you can add them 
to the current file. One method is with File > Import > Formats, but 
this often leads to importing more formats than you need, or 
overwriting existing format definitions with the imported definitions.

One way to avoid this is to create a new file that contains only the 
definitions you want to import, and import from it. Another way is to 
search Google for cleanimport framemaker, for an inexpensive plug-in 
that imports very selectively.

HTH

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Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

>Text Insets take on formatting of source document ALWAYS!
>
>Has anyone noticed that unless you choose plain text, the imported text
>inset will have the formatting of the document that you are importing FROM
>and not the one into which the text inset is going?
>
>I'm sure it used to work in Frame 6. Wow, it sure makes my life difficult!!