Disappearing conditions in x-refs

[Danny Lombardi]

Hi Rick,

I hear you. We've been using conditions on xrefs for some time with no
problems. All of other projects use them without a hitch, which leads me to
believe this is some kind of file corruption.

>From our troubleshooting, we've noticed that it has something to do with
the "HiddenOnline" character style in the xref definition:

</><HiddenOnline>\`<$paratext><HiddenOnline>\' on page\ <$pagenum></>
Removing "HiddenOnline" from the definition and from
the character catalog appears to resolve the problem. It's just hard to
imagine what could cause this in one project when so many others have
been fine using the extact same Frame template for more than 5 years.

I guess we'll just have to keep our eyes peeled when working other projects
in the future or go into each and make the same fix preemptively.

Many thanks for getting back to me!
Dan



On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Rick Quatro <rick at rickquatro.com> wrote:

> Hi Danny,
>
> If I understand correctly, this may be happening because of the nature of
> FrameMaker cross-references. For example, if you select a cross-reference
> in
> FrameMaker, and apply a color directly to it, it will show the color.
> However, if you choose Edit > Update References, check All Cross-References
> and click Update, the color will change back to its original color. That is
> because the cross-reference's text is being "regenerated" and you lose the
> color that was applied manually. The same would probably happen with
> conditional text.
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-659-8267
> rick at frameexpert.com
>
> *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Danny Lombardi
>  Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:47 AM
> To: dr_gonzo at pobox.com
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Disappearing conditions in x-refs
>
> Correct, still in Frame.
>
> Thanks for your reply, Steve.
>
> What I mean is, if you create an x-ref --> "Installing the Client" on page
> 82 -- and condition it Print Only. Then update the book file (in Frame) and
> show Help Only (i.e. hide Print Only). All or part of the x-ref will become
> unconditioned, so you might see only "on page 82" or the whole x-ref.
>
>
> In our attempt to resolve the issue, we realized that Webworks omits the
> page number automatically, so we weren't sure what purpose "HiddenOnline"
> (a
> character style) serves in the x-ref definition created by the designer:
>
>
> As I said, this template is 8 years old. We have never seen this behavior
> before and it occurs in one project only. It suggests some kind of file
> corruption. I'm not sure if the writer tried porting the content into a
> fresh file as a potential fix yet.
>
>
> Thanks again!
> Danny
>
>
>