Responses to Can't get a pdf file from FM 10

Sun Aug 14 17:57:24 PDT 2011

Ohhhhhh ... thank you, Fred, I completely overlooked this point. I suppose
one could work around it by printing from FM to PS, then taking the PS into
PDF via another tool. But I imagine that would muck up a lot of people's
preferred workflow. 

And now, I have a good idea where to experiment a bit ... which I will do
sometime soon. 

Best regards,
Elchanan

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From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 5:12 PM
To: techsubs at vibrantlivingministries.org; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Responses to Can't get a pdf file from FM 10

To the best of my knowledge, the *only* PDF creation tool that preserves the
hyperlinks in a FrameMaker book (cross-references, TOC entries, index
entries, etc.) in the PDF is Adobe Acrobat--either the full Acrobat suite or
the "headless" version of Acrobat Distiller that is bundled with FrameMaker.
Regardless of any other issues, this is a deal-breaker for many FrameMaker
users. If the only objective is a printable file, there are several
alternative PDF tools that would be adequate. But any of your users who read
PDF files onscreen will expect at least some interactivity to make the
document easier to navigate and use.

The Nitro PDF website describes their tool as being capable of preserving
interactive features from Microsoft Office applications, but they make no
such claim regarding any other applications from any other vendors.

Fred Ridder

> From: TechSubs at VibrantLivingMinistries.org
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: FW: Responses to Can't get a pdf file from FM 10
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:38:39 -0700
> 
> Thanks Art, I appreciate your response. I feel curious ... have you
> seriously tried to work on a day-in, day-out basis with any of these other
> products? I'm not in an environment where I would stress them in such a
way,
> so I cannot respond from my own experience. However, my reading on the
most
> recent releases of some of these products (Nuance and Nitro in particular)
> at least suggests that they are rivaling and even surpassing Acrobat
itself
> these days.
> 
> Best,
> Elchanan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:21 PM
> To: VLM TechSubs
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: FW: Responses to Can't get a pdf file from FM 10
> 
> My $.02 would be because Adobe 1.) Builds features into its PDF generators
> that no one else does, that allow expanded PDF file capability and 2.)
Frame
> and Acrobat can be pretty tightly integrated; no other PDF tools let you
do
> as much -- for instance, moving comments back and forth during an edit
> cycle.
> 
> So long run if you use the tools every day and for high end work...
> Acrobat tends to give you mroe bang for the buck.
> 
> Art
> 
> 
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> 
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 3:18 PM, VLM TechSubs
> <TechSubs at vibrantlivingministries.org> wrote:
> > I don't mean to seem disrespectful toward anyone, but with 
> > alternatives available, why are people seemingly so committed to 
> > "getting Acrobat to work"? Why not just use a different tool that DOES 
> > work, such as Nitro, Nuance's PDF Creator, a couple of free variants,
etc.
> >
> > Or is this inquiry fatally flawed for some reason I am missing?
> >
> > Best to all,
> > Elchanan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike 
> > Wickham
> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:56 PM
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: Responses to Can't get a pdf file from FM 10
> >
> > Two wild stabs at your problem:
> >
> > 1. I recall a time when I was getting no PDF generation. It turned out 
> > that in File> Preferences> General, I had Cross-Platform File Naming 
> > set to Macintosh on a Windows computer, and my file name was one 
> > character too long for the Mac 31-character (or whatever) limit. FM 
> > actually let me go through something like four dialog boxes toward 
> > creating the PDF, but gave me no clue while it was failing.
> >
> > 2. I also had problems with Acrobat X on Windows 7 64-bit. I was 
> > getting no PDFs. It turned out that Acrobat updates, both 10.0.1 and 
> > 10.0.2 were trashing the port setting for the Adobe PDF printer and
> setting it to COM1:!
> > It was necessary to delete Adobe PDF printer and do a repair install 
> > to fix the issue.
> >
> > Mike Wickham
> >
> > On 8/13/2011 3:16 PM, Cal Callahan wrote:
> >> I'm using Windows 7 and Acrobat Pro. I'm not at work right now, so 
> >> can't check how much RAM & free disk space I have, but I'm sure 
> >> there's plenty.
> >> I tried print to file, print to PDF, save as PDF, print to pdf Cute 
> >> Writer (?), create pdf from Acrobat Pro, and probably some others I 
> >> don't recall. I sometimes would get the job option error message, but 
> >> that seems to have gone away since I created a job option called 
> >> Standard1. I see a "file not found" error from Acrobat Pro that 
> >> presumably results from my opting to show the pdf after generation.
> >> Don't know about the font embedding or the job options setting for 
> >> that, but will check when I go back to work Tuesday.
> >> It's a company computer, so don't know what patches have been 
> >> installed, how I would know if they had been installed, or if I can 
> >> install the HotFix for Postscript printers. (Do I need this when I'm 
> >> just trying to save a file as pdf?) Thanks for your feedback and 
> >> sorry I'm fuzzy on the details.
> >> cal
> >>
> >
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