framers Digest, Vol 64, Issue 4

[Pinkham, Jim]

Not ready to go there, friends. Yes, the gray is drear, indeed -- total
agreement on that point!!  And, no, Adobe's first incarnation of
customizable UIs for Frame that can be adjusted (and restored) on the
fly isn't perfect. But I can do things with it I never could before,
and, all in all, I think it's making my work in Frame faster and more
comfortable. Same can be said for Illustrator CS5, too, BTW. RJ Jacquez
has a pretty good video on this on the Adobe web site. (I think there's
a link to it in the archives). It changed my perspective from being
skeptical about the new UI to beginning to imagine the possibilities.

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tori Muir
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:50 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: framers Digest, Vol 64, Issue 4

PREACH IT sister!

Not only is the "Stalin gray" interface fugly and depressing (and much
darker than Adobe's other fugly gray interfaces), the whole pod/docking
behavior is incredibly time-wasting. Everything seems to want to glue
itself into everything else! Maybe it's a sign of having become a
dinosaur, but I find the cluttered multi-palette interface of v7 much
faster to work with.

Tori Muir
tmuir at spot-on-creative.com * 650.430.8674 www.spot-on-creative.com 



Davis, Jessica D. wrote:
> On Stuart's rant, I want to add my distaste for the whole pod thing.
> Not only has it taken me a long time to find a view (or whatever they 
> call it) that doesn't get in my way, there are some awful bugs in the 
> pods.  Try deleting multiple variables or multiple conditions.  After 
> you delete one, the next one in the list appears to be selected, but 
> it's not.  Some other variable further down the list may actually be 
> deleted.  And if you delete too many, Frame crashes.  (BTW-the 
> work-around for both of these problems is to click in the body of the 
> document between each deletion.) And this not just me, we have several

> writers working on the project who complained about this problem. 
> Also, I hate how easy it is to accidentally collapse a catalog.  Then 
> to reopen it, you have expand it and drag it out of the pod.  I just 
> find the whole interface clunky and cumbersome and taking up too much 
> screen real estate.
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> <rant>
>
> Bang on, Mike.  I'm also addressing this message to Kapil Verma, who 
> was recently introduced as FM's product manager.  The low-contrast, 
> monochrome GUI in FM 9 is not just butt-ugly, it's HARD TO USE.  It 
> GETS IN THE WAY. It PREVENTS ME FROM EASILY ACHIEVING MY GOALS.
>
> There may be a valid argument for low-contrast grey interfaces in 
> programs like Illustrator and Photoshop, where the user's perception 
> of colours in the working document could be adversely influenced by 
> colours and contrasts in the GUI.  But FM is NOT a graphics design 
> program.  The precaution of eliminating colour and contrast in the 
> GUI, if that's what it is, is misplaced, unjustified, and highly
counterproductive.
>
> Or if it's a marketing decision, originating in the "imperative" that 
> Adobe products must all look the same to protect "the brand," remember

> that Henry Ford's user-defying mantra, "Any customer can have a car 
> painted any color that he wants so long as it is black" has been 
> discredited as a marketing strategy for an awfully long time.
>
> I strongly recommend, Kapil, that you call together the graphic 
> designers (and marketing "branders") who have obviously had 
> overwhelming influence on this GUI, thank them for their efforts, and 
> politely show them the door.  Then get some USER INTERACTION experts 
> and USABILITY experts on board and set them to undoing the damage that

> the artsy/marketsy folks have inflicted.
>
> The world (of technical writing) would be a better place.
>
> </rant>
>
> Thanks,
> Jess
>
>
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