Table Elements Out of Order in Cross-Reference Dialog

[Graham, Jasmine S]

Many thanks to several of you who have responded so far (some on and off list).

Fred, I agree that this list is relevant to the authors only and does not have an effect on the document. In my years past, when it happened, I simply dismissed it and moved on. I am pursuing it now because it is appearing in my template, which means it will likely be present in every future document created from that template. Another reason is because I am gearing up to ¨C very, very hopefully -- be training other SME writers who will all be new to Frame. I¡¯d like it very much if these new learners do not encounter this ¡±distraction¡± while they are learning to use Frame.

Michael, I did verify that the elements are listed in Document Order (not sorted by ID) in the X-Ref dialog. This is a good thing to watch for if someone gets confused because they changed the sort order.

As always, this group is terrific!

Jasmine Graham
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From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 6:49 PM
To: Graham, Jasmine S; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Table Elements Out of Order in Cross-Reference Dialog

Why does it matter what order is used in the Cross-Reference dialog? That list is merely a convenience to authors when when new cross-references are being added to a document. You are the only person who ever sees that list, and its order has absolutely no effect on the final document.

Cross-references are point-to-point links that depend on the (semi-)unique marker ID number that FrameMaker assigns the first time you create an x-ref that points to a given paragraph. The order in which targets are listed in the Cross-Reference dialog has no effect on the functioning of the x-refs.

-Fred Ridder

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From: Yassamin.Graham at weatherford.com
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Table Elements Out of Order in Cross-Reference Dialog
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:30:57 +0000
Fellow Framers,

Structured Frame 8, on XP, been clicking along just fine, but now experiencing a quirk I¡¯ve seen in years past.  I am the only one working on these documents, so I assume it¡¯s a pilot error on my part.

What causes a table element to appear out of order in the Cross-Reference dialog? After inserting new tables, I go to create new cross references and see elements listed in the X-Ref dialog as follows:

Table 1
Table 4 (was a new table I added)
Table 3 (was a second new table I added)
Table 2
Table 5 (was three before I got into this)

I have tried numerous things like moving them around, deleting and recreating, and so forth. What is it that I am doing to cause this so that I can remedy it? What¡¯s happening under the hood to get these references out of order?

Thanks in advance and Happy Friday!

Jasmine Graham
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